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Oh boy, now's the last chance to stop before it's too late.
Don't, under any circumstances, ever install something called "EndeavourOS"!
It's the gateway to Å̸̧͉͝R̴̫̮̅͠C̷̪̘̬̓̿H̴̡̏, and once you set foot on that path, you won't come out the other side without Unix socks and a Blåhaj.
My first distro was arch btw. It's not hard if you approach it with a mindset to learn. That's the whole point of Linux anyway, it's a tool and the better you know your tool the more capable that tool becomes.
It's like a lathe with interchangeable parts and gears. You don't know what your doing it might throw some metal at you but it's also capable of crafting a precise and finely finished part in a short amount of time.
I also throw fedora on my laptop because laptops are an ergonomic nightmare. Plug and play is nice for when you don't have time to really learn your tools or do setup and just need any hammer to get the job done. You can still smack your thumb though, it's not a cordless drill with proprietary batteries like Macos or windows.
The socks were in my cart, my mouse pointer right io the order button but before I could click the mouse, I changed my mind. It was almost too late but I installed Fedora just one moment short of being unable to turn back for good...
Which way do I gotta go for the Unix beard?
Slackware
Big truth right there.
Linux from Scratch and Gentoo are also pathways to abilities some would call... unnatural
Don't forget a apple fan boi level of false superiority.
Is hackintish still a thing? I haven’t looked at that in like 15 years.
With the new Apple silicon going on it's killing Hackintosh by literally having non-Apple silicon going to be no longer supported.
So basically the EoL date for a Hackintosh is when Apple goes EoL on non-Apple silicon with their OS.
Which should be rather soon I suppose, anyway…
Endeavor is nice, btw
~~false~~ superiority
Me but opensuse tumbleweed, have it on my PC and Thinkpad now.
If gaming is a priority, Garuda is a nice one to avoid as well
“Gaming” distros are such a noob trap
Everything works, so keep gatekeeping if it makes you feel better
How is it gatekeeping? It’s is a trap though, there is literally nothing in those distros making gaming better. It’s like those “gaming” branded mice or keyboard that just have more color and a higher price tag. It’s there to attract people, but in the end you’ll get roughly the same performance whether you use mint, ubuntu or arch.
They don't make gaming better, they make it easier for people who want to switch to have a functioning system, and there's no price tag at all. Some will learn from there, some will just keep taking the easy way and that's fine too.
It's gatekeeping because without them only people willing and able to get technical get access to Linux. Would it be better if everybody learned? Of course. It's not going to happen though, let others have a way in.
That’s the thing I don’t get. It only takes 5m starting from a fresh ubuntu/mint and the likes to be gaming ready. Even if you have no clue how to use a computer, there are hundreds of guides on how to do it in maybe 10m. Compare that to getting a gaming distro, which would save you those 10m but you’d pay the price next time you have an issue and realise the distro is way too niche for you to get a non-technical answer.
It’s not gatekeeping, I’m not keeping anyone away from Linux, I’m giving them a better path so they can have a smoother experience.
It takes 10 minutes for you. I know people who struggle to understand that the browser isn't google isn't the internet, try having them install a new OS. They don't follow the guides, because they don't even understand what they should look for.
Some understand enough but like the convenience, and again that's fair.
Bedsides, gaming distros aren't the mess you say they are, nor are they so much more niche than any other major distro.
Usually they just work, when they don't you look for fixes in the underlying distro community.
You are gatekeeping, and you are condescendingly deciding the best path for everyone else. I get that you honestly think it would be better, still people are different, what's best for you doesn't need to be the best for everyone else.
10m for anyone. If you’re able to go through the bios to boot on your usb, you’re able to take 5m to to google “gaming on x distro” and paste 3 commands (steam, lutris/bottles, nvidia drivers)
As someone who occasionally spends time helping people on forums, I’ve noticed that a very good chunk of people having issues are people using gaming distros or arch.
Another issue is the kernel mods that sometimes comes with those distros. A few years ago they were mostly all good, now the official kernel is generally better. If you look at recent benchmarks, the modded kernels will give you +2-5 fps in very specific tests and then -30 in the next. They also vastly vary by hardware. This results in many users having performance issues in some places but nobody being able to debug why.
Nobara might be the only one that is maintained and popular enough to make sense for anyone to use, the others are straight up traps.
Well, it's made for Linux newbies...
That’s the point, it preys on those who don’t know enough to realise they got got. They’d be better off using more mainstream distros which are more stable and have more online help/documentation.