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Don't gorillas get taken out by jaguars though?
I know jaguars have a stronger bite force but pound for pound I'm pretty sure lions are stronger.
Idk I just feel like it's a decent match up.
I'd like to put a case forward for gorillas please.
In a brawl where both parties are strong enough to survive the inital attack, the toughness of each party becomes the deciding factor. The gorilla is just much tougher by design, it's much harder to go for the neck when it has nothing but muscle for neck, or the genitials when gorilla dong averages around 3cm small. The lion's definitely more of a glass cannon by design.
Jaguars live in South America. Gorillas live in Africa. Even gorilla vs lion is very unlikely, since (most) gorillas live in the rainforest and African lions live in the savanna.
Maybe I'm thinking of leopards?
Leopards do attack gorillas, and they probably kill babies. But a leopard weighs, on average, about half as much as an adult gorilla, so attacks on adults might not be that common.
Maybe I'm underestimating their speed. I just vtcan't imagine how a single jaguar gets the chance TO bite. I'm just imagining one punch from the silverback, and it's OVER.
Maybe the jaguar has enough speed to surprise the gorilla, and if they bite the throat maybe thats enough. But I just don't see the bite ever actually happening.
Cats are ambush predators though. Jaguar gets the first bite before the Gorilla even knows what's happening. If that goes to the throat, bingo.
House cats are quicker than snakes and stuff so I imagine cats in general are just crazy fast
I think you might be over estimating the force of a gorilla punch. I mean don't get me wrong gorillas have ridiculous strength and can do some serious damage with just a few hits.
But lions aren't exactly glass cannons. They can take a few hits before quitting/dying. I mean they deal with things like wildebeests after all.
The context of the fight would definitely be a major factor though.
I agree with you on your two points.
I wonder if the gorilla would be crippling the lions limbs by sheer brute force. Throwing, yanking them out of sockets, twisting and squeezing them. The lion would fight like any house cat. And the gorilla would respond like we do when playing with our house cat. Gorillas would want to hurt and stop the attacks and that means huge amounts of force. Force they are capable of.