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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why do libertarian concerns always sound like loud petty arguments you would hear at the HOA?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I want to be on the side that's NOT on the HOA. What about this sounds like I want to police your yard? I'm advocating for personal freedoms. I'm: Pro choice. Pro Marijuana. Pro mail in vote. Pro welfare. Pro camping. Honestly, fuck you for being unnecessarily dogmatic. There are libertarians out there who DON'T say "lEt tHE StaTEs DecIde."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but the libertarian party of the USA doesn't adhere to the roots of the party. No need to be so hostile, it was an honest question and the fu very much sounds like "get off my lawn!”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm drunk, and I'll admit I'm being hostile. Also, fuck lawns. They're a French staple meant to express wealth. They kill pollinators. I just want to build a shed. I like shed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'd very much like to learn and talk more with you about the original ideas of libertarianism when you're sober. Back in the late 90s, before the American Libertarians took over the party and changed it, a friend suggested it sounded like a fit for me. I'd also like to know if any other libertarians who are in accord with the original values have an online space for discussion, and any ideas to reclaim the party mechanisms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not catching your meaning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'd be interested in finding a space to discuss social libertarian ideas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Anarchist magazines/communities/forums are what you’re looking for

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Ah okay. Maybe we'll get a reply.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

There are very few left. I considered myself a social libertarian for a while but I now just don't like political labels. They're terrible for getting a point across.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well you were yelling about sheds and growing weed. I assume you're waving a gun around as you type. This is like a stereotypical rant at an HOA or city council meeting.

Speaking of which, here's what a town run by libertarians looks like:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It would be hard to wave a gun and type, lol. That's a battle AGAINST HOA and the city council. Also, I don't identify with them. I'm a libertarian communist, not a "red pilled, tech bro, toll roading, anti-choice," libertarian. I've largely denounced my party. I believe in the ideals, not the party. I don't think that's petty. If you do, I don't think you're politically active. That's fine, but you should probably pull your head out of your asshole.

Edit: I noticed you're editing your comments

Edit 2: as rebuttal

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Social libertarian is what you are looking for.