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Trump told donors he will crush pro-Palestinian protests, deport demonstrators
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this post was submitted on 27 May 2024
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Genocide is a US problem not specific to any president.
You can say "Joe Biden is helping/supporting Israel in its genocide on Palestinians". Calling him "genocide joe" is repeating GOP bs. They say it like that to keep the critical thinking to a minimum.
Has any other president been sued for genocide?
One: you can be sued for anything regardless of if it's true or not. Someone could find some sleazebag lawyer and sue you for drowning hundreds of puppies while laughing about it -- does that make you a puppy killer?
Two: We have presidents that we know directly ordered genocides of native people ... yet weren't sued for it.
Until he changes his stance, he’s “genocide Joe.”
So by that definition there's also genocide Trump, and genocide US government, and genocide US soldiers, and genocide US citizens, and genocide judges, and... It becomes irrelevant to call him "genocide joe", it has little to do with him. See we call Dwayne "the rock" Johnson because he's the only wrestler known by that name, it's unique to him. I think you need to lookup what Nicknames are for, aside from GOP propaganda.
I agree. All individuals and institutions you listed could be culpable, but no suits, internationally, nor domestically have been filed. Except for the CCR case against Biden, Blinken, and Austin.
I looked into the origin of the “genocide Joe” meme. The earliest entry is from October 18, 2023. As far as I can tell it was started by pro-Palestine leftists like Aaron Mate, Hasan, and Alan Macleod. It did not originate from conservative media.
Youre a trumper. Let's not pretend lawsuits mean anything at all to you. Nevermind lawsuits that haven't started.
The origin is irrelevant to who is perpetuating it, or why. "Sleepy Joe", "Genocide Joe", "Orange man bad" are all designed to remove any critical thinking or nuance. It was the same for "Crooked Hillary".
Now if you're so good at fetching historical data, let's find which political party has it as a primary strategy to make up silly names and gaslight their opponent with them.. i'll wait.
This prolix exposition does nothing to keep Trump from being reelected. More likely, it serves to depress voter motivation. You need to give people a reason to vote for Biden, not against Trump. Best of luck.
Because that's what youre doing right, getting people to vote for Biden. I see lmao
Yes, pressure on Biden will force him to stop supporting a genocide, which will hopefully help more people support him. He's already taken baby steps. Thanks to this pressure. I was told to vote for him in 2020 because he can be pushed left and I did. Yet, if he can't be pushed to not support a genocide, the biggest crime of all humanity, then it's not really true.
Unironically, yes. Insulting voters and defending a genocide does not win people to your side.
Yes we agree that other modern presidents have been genocidal as well.
Using that fact as an excuse for the current genocide is not some realpolitik, "adults in the room" level of thinking. It is moral depravity and the banality of evil.
Who is using it as excuse for the current genocide? Where does it say "genocide is ok"? "Adult in the room" my ass.
When comparing 2 candidates, genocide doesn't matter because they will both do it, you substract that from both side of the equation in US politics. Once a president is in office then you can protest decision, this is about comparing candidates.
Using the GOP propaganda of "genocide joe" like it's his personal hobby just feeds the trolls. The article is about Trump, and the guy at the top of this thread is asking where the "genocide joe" trumpers are given Trump admits the same. Anyone answering "i'm here", but saying "AKshUaLlY i'm not a trumper but biden is commiting genocide" is just pedantic and missing the point of this discussion
It’s always one of the folks from one of the newer instances/communities I see making these arguments, usually it’s sh.itjust.works or kbin but I saw quite a few from .today this weekend. Seems like the older instances that were either up or started because of the migration from reddit are less filled with trolls and bad faith in my experience
You did, when you said "Genocide is a US problem not specific to any president."
This "lesser of two evils" logic only holds up when deciding who to vote for. The Biden administration does not get to aid a genocide criticism-free just because Trump would be worse.
A president is in office now, aiding a genocide now, so I'm protesting now. If the US is still supporting genocide after the election I will protest then, too.
I saw a shocking amount of upvoted genocide denial in the comments, so I felt the need to respond, even if its unpopular.
Haha you're not protesting, youre whining on the internet. Not one protest in the US besides the students protesting their school, not biden.
I assume the rest of your life based on like ten internet posts you've made. I'm a genius please pat me on the back'