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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean you could make an actual evo psych argument about the importance of being able to model the behavior of other people in order to function in a social world. But I think part of the problem is also in the language at this point. Like, anthropomorphizing computers has always been part of how we interact with them. Churning through an algorithm means it's "thinking", an unexpected shutdown means it "died", when it sends signals through a network interface it's "talking" and so on. But these GenAI chatbots (chatbots in general, really, but it's gotten worse as their ability to imitate conversation has improved) are too easy to assign actual agency and personhood to, and it would be really useful to have a similarly convenient way of talking about what they do and how they do it without that baggage.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I don't think we need to go as far as evopsych here... it may just be an artifact of modeling the environment at all - you learn to model other people as part of the environment, you re-use models across people (some people are mean, some people are nice, etc).

Then weather happens, and you got yourself a god of bad weather and a god of good weather, or perhaps a god of all weather who's bipolar.

As far as language goes it also works the other way, we over used these terms in application to computers, to the point that in relation to computers "thinking" no longer means it is actually thinking.