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I'll check the video, thanks for sharing
I think Graphene without play services is a lot better than iPhones, and with play services, it's worse
Because play services are deeply integrated into many apps, and Google is known for not E2EE anything and being an advertising company. They have an enormous interest in gathering as much data as possible for commercial purposes, while Apple likely only have a statistical interest for their business decisions
A lot of what apple offers is wind and I'm aware of it, but having even a small thing is better than giving out your data to the monster that is Google.
If you manage to sell me Android then congrats, because I fucking hate Apple but hate Android even more because of Google
Do you believe a Samsung phone (or any authorized ROM with relatively good price/performance ratio) running with their provided OS for example would be better than an iPhone?
No, I don't. Samsung and other authorized OEMs run stock Google services so there's no benefit to using them. Those devices are also substantially inferior to the Pixel in terms of security features anyways.
The only phone I recommend is a Pixel with a properly set up GrapheneOS install, making use of profiles and private spaces depending on which apps you want to expose to Google Play Services/Framework, and which you don't.
Ideally your most used profile is filled exclusively with FOSS or privacy-respecting apps that can run without Google services. And I'm talking about going really deep even on elemetary things like using an offline keyboard like Heliboard or FUTO that won't send everything you type to Google/Microsoft/Apple. Or using Gboard but with network access blocked.
Yes, this set up takes time and some research, but it's the only way you can guarantee your data is properly split between what is just for you to see, and what others see.
A device that is truly yours and not someone else's to mine for data and spy on you, possibly getting you in trouble in the future when a government demands your data from Google/Apple.
But if you're not willing to put in the work to set it up, then I don't recommend any other Androids. Stay on iPhone instead.
Alright, thanks for your answer. That was my reasoning for everything: I didn’t believe running graphene was usable because it wasn’t for my use case, and I assumed it would be the case for everyone (wrongly obviously, although we’re on Lemmy so people here and on this community are probably more tech savvy)