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‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/11288860

Instead, Cerezo-Mota expects the world to heat by a catastrophic 3C this century, soaring past the internationally agreed 1.5C target and delivering enormous suffering to billions of people. This is her optimistic view, she says.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

yeah i gave up a long time ago. just don't have kids please. don't bring them into this mess.

[+] [email protected] -12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nah. If the climate crisis turns into societal collapse, and my future children want to avoid the pain of living through the apocalypse, they can kill themselves when things turn bleak. It's the same choice we all have. There's always a way off the ride. Every day any of us live is a day deemed better than the alternative.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean.... Don't raise kids with that mentality

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Which mentality?

That human life is worth living, but circumstances may not always be, so we reserve the right to choose our own exit from it, or that choosing to live is saying life is better than death?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're teaching your children to take their own lives when times are rough. I'm not besmirching your freedom to "exit" or anyone's choice but who are you, me, your kids, to make a decision of that final exit based off of criteria that is subjective and impossible to understand. Not even the very wise can see the end, apocalyptic world or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Tell me where I said I'd teach a child suicide should be front of mind. All I mean is they should get to choose if they live - in response to someone pleading that we all stop having children.

I want to have a child. Why should I not, because the world could be in rough shape due to climate catastrophe? I'll let them make that call and I hope they don't have to.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bro what the fuck

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

OP was begging everyone to stop having kids because they gave up on life - that's better than recognizing we can choose to stop living at any time?

Accepting the end of the human race is a lot more "what the fuck" than accepting the end of a human life, imo.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

This is where I'm at as well. I've accepted that the world is fucked and billions will likely die during my lifetime. But there's nothing I can personally do about it. So I'm just making the best of what life I have.