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Chicago police won't discipline 9 officers tied to Oath Keepers extremist group (chicago.suntimes.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Chicago Police Department leaders said Thursday they have decided not to punish any officers whose names appeared on the leaked membership list of the Oath Keepers, an anti-government extremist group that played a key role in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.

“The investigation is closed and the allegations were not sustained,” a spokeswoman for the CPD said in a statement, declining to provide any documents from the internal probe.

The brief statement stood in stark contrast to Chicago Police Supt. Larry Snelling’s zero-tolerance vow to the City Council in October, after WBEZ and the Chicago Sun-Times revealed the misconduct records of cops with ties to the Oath Keepers.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A white terrorist group filled with members of a white terrorist group? Truly shocking!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“There are very fine people on both sides.”

[+] [email protected] -12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Why did you leave out the first part of the quote?

you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.

Source

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because any good people in the group would’ve noticed the swastika flags and decided to do something else that evening or ideally joined the counter protests.

I’ve been a counterprotestor before, you generally know who’s on your side and what it looks like on your walk there. You have time to see who’s with you.

It wasn’t like it was a handful of Nazis and a lot of people who just wanted lower taxes. It was a night that culminated in a large mass of men chanting that Jews will not replace them as they carried torches and many carried swastika flags. There may have been bad people on both sides, but only one side had good people, the other had too many Nazis to have any good people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't see how that justifies misquoting a person. If you're going to criticize someone for what they said then for the very least criticize them for what they actually said rather than editorializing it and then critiquing that misrepresentation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because the unite the right march was explicitly about white supremacism? You think there were some "very fine people" marching around and chanting, "Jews will not replace us"?

Spoiler: there weren't.

I've never seen footage of a group of Nazis marching around and thought, "I bet some of those dudes are actually pretty alright." That's also not something I want my presidents thinking.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That quote is from Trump, not me. It doesn't matter what I think. That's the actual full quote.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I typed it from memory. Thank you for the correction. We still agree that white supremacists are not “very fine,” right?