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In California, plans to move low-income neighborhoods off of gas advance (www.canarymedia.com)
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Residential greenhouse gas emissions are ~8% of the state's overall emissions. That's big enough to matter.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Read another way: poor people no longer allowed to use gas, that's only for the wealthy.

Seriously, since when does anything good start with poor people? High speed internet--nope. Better cellular coverage--hell no.

How about they "decarbonize" Beverly Hills first? I'm sure they'd be thrilled to give up their poolside fire pits and Viking ranges in the name of cleaner air. I'm sure they'd not mind it if their whole-house generators were now useless.

I believe that we need to reduce the use of fossil fuels, but this approach feels very imbalanced and makes me question the intent. At least you can still cook or have hot water during a power outage. If nothing else, why fucking remove the infrastructure?! If this is such a great thing, leave the gas lines in place and let the utilities subsidize the switch to all-electric. Also, with all energy coming from a single source, I worry that this is an attempt to remove alternatives and spike costs to the consumer by green washing the whole thing.

I'd love to see how this really helps the air quality. Until we can effectively displace and shut down natural gas power generation, it will still be a factor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You actually see a lot of fancier homes doing things like induction stoves and heat pumps now. Nobody wants to breathe the fumes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Interior air quality is a problem long solved by ventilation fans. You should run them regardless of the type of cooking appliance used. Now that many homes and apartments do not have ventilation that exhausts to the outside is a different problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Actual rate at which people run vent fans is quite low.