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Top tier animation and style.
Bottom tier writing.
It fucking kills me because I wanted it to be good so badly due to the high quality art and animation, but it's written so amateurishly and immaturely, I can't get past it. The writing was dead before the ship even sank.
It's like a teen who just figured out how to cuss for the first time. Even Cannibal the Musical handled it better than this, and that was pre-South Park from the South Park numbskulls, who aren't exactly known for being "mature."
Late reply I know, but it's weird how in this thread I mostly found negativity towards the show but when I look other places the reviews seem to be largely positive... Is it just that only the people who enjoyed the show bothered to write one?
That tends to be how everything is. The critics are always the loudest voices, while people who enjoy things tend to be pretty quiet about their enjoyment.
I wouldn't think too much of it. It's enjoyed by a large number of people, and the creator and the community should be happy enough with that. My critique isn't going to impact its popularity.
It also depends on who you're dealing with. I have a background in literature, so I'm a lot more picky about my stories. I also love animation, so I was drawn to the series for its style and quality animation but was driven away by the writing.
The thing is, imperfect writing is happily enjoyed by many. My curmudgeonly attitude toward it shouldn't impact their enjoyment, or I certainly hope it doesn't.
Further, maybe the creator is reading these kind of critiques and learning from them. I've seen many things with rough starts grow into something more special. Time will tell if Hazbin Hotel is able to achieve the same. I wouldn't count it out of the running, the creator seems thoughtful enough, and if they take valid writing critique to heart, they may become a much better writer well into the series. I could come back in Season 3 and be blown away about how much better it is than the first season, you know? Some folks aren't willing to let people cook.
I have my opinion about it now, but I'm also happy to have that opinion be changed over time. No reason to write off a new artist for a weak start in some areas. Almost no one is a Leonardo DaVinci who can do great art of various styles right out of the gate. No, we have an excellent animator and songsmith who has weak (but not terrible) writing chops. Those writing chops will now have a chance to grow and hopefully become better.
I agree. The artstyle is great, but it unfortunately doesn't have enough runtime to flash out a good story.
Absolutely agree on Hazbin; all style no substance. I think the writing is where the South Park guys have always excelled, even with Hannibal. They are juvenile at face value, but the stories tends to dig into something deeper. I feel like Hazbin and South Park are quite opposite when it comes to style & substance.