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[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Moore predicted the next presidential election will mirror Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton in 2016 if Biden does not demand a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war. The filmmaker argued that Biden will end up losing battleground states like Michigan by a slim margin because voters upset with his support of Israel will stay home.

“Be a politician for once. What does a politician want most? To get reelected,” he said. “Why are you guaranteeing possibly losing the election and Trump being back in the White House? What is fricking wrong with you?”

[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (4 children)

That's the worst part.

Biden wants us to believe the worst thing that can happen to America is trump in office.

And he's right.

But instead of logically realizing that means he should be doing what voters want, he thinks that should mean he can do anything he wants, and if we don't like it that's not his fault.

It's exactly the same as Hillary in 2016.

Neoliberals don't want Republicans to be less extreme, they want Republicans to be so terrible that it makes the neoliberal standing next to them feel like a good option. Even if that means sometimes people like trump becomes president.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

But instead of logically realizing that means he should be doing what voters want

The problem is that what you think voters want is different than what voters actually want.

There's a LOT of pro-Israel Democrat voters out there. You just don't associate with them.

You think Biden is supporting Israel for the funzies? Because he just loves genocide? Grow up. Biden has a lot of voters who want him to support Israel.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So start sharpening the knives! Support grassroots leftist groups in your area. Support your local union, if you're a member, and maybe talk with them about what politicians they want to endorse.

The Democrats will only move further and further right, until they are indistinguishable from moderate Republicans, but right now every year a Democrat is in power is time for leftists to organise with the intent of breaking off. I've been getting a lot of hope from the pro-Palestinian protests I've been going to, I think they can be a great place to network with leftist groups if you're looking.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

The Democrats will only move further and further right, until they are indistinguishable from moderate Republicans

First of all, wrong verb tense, and second, "until" implies they stopped when they reached that point.

The Democratic Party has been right of Eisenhower for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

i've said this before, and i'll say this again: when the Dems lose, don't blame the Trump voters or the tiny amount of 3rd-party voters. They should blame themselves for not getting the gigantic bloc of non-voters to vote blue because they ran a candidate that people hated.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They will blame progressives regardless of how they vote.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Same old story

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I don't wanna brag but I can blame Dems and Trump voters at the same time. I'm built different.

Heck, in 2016 I even blamed the media obsession with Trump making him popular, I'll blame anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Don’t forget god. What the heck has she been doing lately?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Spitting facts. Dems have and will always have blood on their hands for making Trump what he is. Fucking Hilary’s campaign propped him up so that they could push the right to extremes and paint them an easy target.

Guess what happens when you play with fire?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Don't forget to also blame Hillary for pushing Trump because she thought he would be the easiest to beat.