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Liberals and conservatives are different in ways that matter A LOT to liberals and conservatives. The differences don't matter nearly as much to leftists, which pisses off liberals to no end.
Does it matter to them? There's a whole demographic of morons that act like the differences aren't clear as day. That a "left leaning" person would even consider voting R in 2024 is a horrific joke.
Some leftists view the US as the last of the old empires, built on violent conquest, genocide, exploitation, and stolen land. They would say that the world cannot progress so long as the United States exists, and they might vote R precisely because they think if R is in power it will accelerate the collapse of the US empire.
Ftfy
I don’t see any significant number of people doing this. That would be like demolishing a condemned building while you’re standing in it. Yeah it probably should come down, but there are still people inside.
I think about half the people who claim to be accelerationist are just foreign actors.
I think it's more than half, but whatever the number the remaining few are fools without exception.
This might be true, but it's a little tangential: leftists just don't have a horse in the race. From a dialectical materialist perspective, neither party/candidate is substantially different. They are also quite aware and are resentful of the electoral strategies of the R/D divide that manufactures crisis around social disagreements instead of addressing the increasingly distressed working class conditions. They are well aware of the 'threats' posed by the R side, but they regard them as intentionally overblown and even somewhat encouraged by the D's who are increasingly desperate not to address materialist issues for fear of loosing the support of capital.
Basically: they think the desperation of the democratic party is a bit of schadenfreude for enabling the R party and the orange cheto man to begin with, and they think the D's need to feel a bit of electoral pain in order to come around on issues that are more central to leftist concerns.
Any leftist that doesn't have a horse in the race is a fool and probably a queerphobe to boot.
Genocide against trans people is not a "social disagreement" and anyone who says otherwise is a bigot.
I hate to break this to you but the assault against trans people has already been happening and the Biden administration dgaf about it
https://www.pbs.org/video/over-400-anti-lgbtq-bills-proposed-2023-b14bsw/
This is such a weird hill to die on as a biden supporter because he's quite famously catholic and has repeatedly flip-flopped on civil rights -gay marriage, integration, police reform, and abortion being prime examples. If libs never press the issue with him he will simply never do anything about it.
~~I think it's incredibly telling that your own source doesn't support your argument.~~
Setting that aside, your argument is terrible because even if Biden doesn't care about trans people, I'd prefer that to someone who hates them. This both-sides argument is dogshit.
Edit: when I replied, I missed the video and thought it was an incredibly short article. I'm not watching a long video.
Well then do me a favor and hold your tongue next time you get the urge to accuse someone of being a bigot or a queerphobe, because you clearly don't give a fuck yourself.
There's no point to going through the effort of watching it because your argument fails to address the issue, as I said. Even then, it's extremely discourteous to expect me to go through a long video to find the timestamps you didn't provide. After all, there's a decent chance that you're simply doing this to waste my time. If you provide quotes and timestamps I can verify that would be good supporting evidence. But again, the evidence must support a viable argument or else it's pointless.
Lol no, fuck off, I'm not going to 'provide quotes and timestamps' of anti-trans bills being passed throughout the country.
Thanks for proving just how much you actually care about LGBTQ issues, though.
It probably is, and what you describe is probably more representative of what most leftists think about liberal/conservative politics, but I don't think that matters much to liberals. I don't think liberals care whether you are an R voting accelorationist leftist or a leftist who doesn't engage out of indifference. The liberals see both actions as essentially helping the Republicans, which is an unthinkable crime, in their minds. It's just two different groups with two different ideologies; ideologies that each group believes are mutually exclusive.
Is that even up for debate? Republicans want to genocide trans people. Why is it even a question about who to support.
Just a stupid thing: You could have been using that word like that on purpose for effect, which is fine, but just in case; They want to annihilate trans people, possibly eugenicize trans people, but you can't commit genocide on trans people cause it's not an ethnic group or nation.
Sorry, I had to get that out of my system or I wouldn't be able to sleep.
Yea, no argument there. I just think people accuse leftists as being 'accelerationist' as a way to paint them as 'just as bad' as republicans, or worse-than since they acknowledge the damage being done but are actively rooting for it instead of being indifferent or in denial as a republican voter might be.
There are certainly leftists that fit that description, but I think it's just a convenient way for some to dismiss them as crazies.