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I just watched Measure of a Man, they rule Data has the right to choose. But in Voyager the EMH gets relegated to forced servitude. Why? Doesn’t that violate precedent?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I think the implication is that Data only has rights because he's hardware and incredibly hard (maybe impossible) to copy. Essentially, he has rights only because he's no real threat to the status quo.

Edit: I think this line of reasoning also dovetails with genetically modified humans being ostracized and having to live in hiding, because they too threaten the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a hardware device, Data ages and is mortal. Those too are characteristics of life. Note that in future shows he ages himself on a more human timeline to experience this part of life

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

he’s hardware and incredibly hard

-Tasha Yar, probably

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yar can't speak if the tar has Yar covered in tar. Arr.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or because he can die. E.g. if he’s destroyed that’s it. While the EMH can be copied

I’d argue, however, that each instantiation has its own memories and experiences making each of them unique sentient beings

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Only if initiated. The same argument has been made of genetic clones. Any deviation of circumstance creates variance.