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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Coaching newbies doesn't work that well remotely, so you'll have to be at the office more for them to ask you questions, otherwise they're stuck in the simplest things for days.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I thought this until I've actually done it a few times, and been that newbie at a remote first employer.

The difference in being on boarded at a company which embraces remote vs one that is still hedging, is massive.

It can be done well.

Yes the extroverts might get fidgety, but they can schedule a meeting or body doubling session or something. We introverts have had to adjust to office work for the last century; let's see y'all do a bit of that labour for another, better way to do info work now :p

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I think that might depend on who you're hiring though. That's the same line our boss told me when they pushed me back to the office. But in the time since then, we have hired several new staff who actually prefer to communicate digitally. They will email, teams, phone, or text me with questions before actually seeking me out in person.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

This is evidence that you need to adjust your training methods.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Any evidence to back that up?

That's the line my CEO used, but we had plenty of hires join during COVID that have excelled while here, with lots of talented engineers that had to leave because they were forced to an office hundreds of miles away.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Personal experience. The juniors just out of school and interns are invariably stuck in something trivial that can often be solved with looking at their stuff for a few seconds. They don't dare to disturb you with any questions and need a lot of explaining. Doing all the explaining through the screen is a pain and you have to hound them with calls to get them to ask questions.

Experienced new hires don't have that issue. They can Google stuff, read a manual and know when to send a message for a blocking issue.

That's doesn't mean send everybody to the office. Just the new guy and the coach should be enough in most cases and reduce the presence as they hit their stride.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The juniors just out of school and interns are invariably stuck in something trivial that can often be solved with looking at their stuff for a few seconds.

If only there were a way to share your screen remotely...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

And that's why you do stand-ups every day, which everybody loves to hate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

When the company where I was managing a small team went full remote during COVID, I had 0 issues with my existing staff, but when I had to hire, that was definitely less than ideal for onboarding. We still made it work but it was nothing like the in-office onboardings from before. There are solutions though, you can do virtual sit-togethers, and if you're reactive to slack/etc you can be even more present for them than in-person, but it felt uneasy for sure the first times. Left all corporate behind now and running a one man business so don't need to care about this.