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corbin's already nailed it. This is just another example of Nazi apologia, in which someone makes death threats that their supporters try to defend in public as just metaphors. I don't think it's essential to refute what the OP was saying, but here's my attempt:
Yeah, that's not how any of this works. As stated in the article,
So the OP is straight up wrong about being "unfamiliar with [...] 90s hip-hop," the research is right there. Also, I am not well versed in rap and rap culture, but I understand that in the 90s, rap and hip hop were intertwined with gangs and murder- thinking that a death threat in a song was not literal and "not intended to be a true threat at the time" is... naive at best, I imagine.
OP also says the threats "certainly couldn't reasonably be taken as one today." I don't think this is true. Let's look at the threats themselves:
I don't think there's any other reading than the persona announcing their intent to use a ".44" on all the parties listed, which is a death threat for sure. Additionally, IANAL, but according to Greg Hill and Associates,
So yeah, I think this could still "reasonably be taken as [a threat] today".
@swlabr @corbin it does, however, look like _someone_ is unfamiliar with 90's hip hop
And this is why whenever I send non-threats to people I oppose politically, I prefer black metal or WP skinhead lyrics.
Silmänkantamattomiin jää silmät sokaisee Viima täynnä vimmaa viiltää läpi käsien Vuoret ympäröivät saalistaan, niin vailla uskoa Mistä voimme täällä elää? Mistä löydämme tien eteenpäin?
Ha! That put you in your place.
I'd feel pretty threatened if someone suddenly began messaging me in Finnish if not for the fact that I am Finnish myself.
Wait that is Finnish? ;)
I just copy pasted a piece of metal text which I knew I couldn't understand when I heard it. (Did check if first if it doesn't shout something vile however) Was worried somebody would go 'that isn't black metal that is pagan metal!' and I would lose my metal card.
Being worried that someone calls you out for misidentifying a metal subgenre is a metal fan staple. In any case Moonsorrow is definitely at least BM adjacent and a lot of black metal musicians are pagan for… varyingly good reasons.
Hmm dunno, "The ice blinds your eyes as far as the eye can see, the wind furiously slashes through hands, the mountains surround their prey…" Sounds pretty violent 😉
Poetic description of normal weather in Finland.
Sure, a bit violent, but I worried it might be mega racist, not lyrics about covering people in mountains of snowballs.