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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

If you doubt this actually happened clearly you've never worked in customer service/ food service

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing this has more to do with the US, than the particular profession.

I'm so used to workers rights, that getting a glimpse into how things are over there feels dystopian. Laws everyone would want, and benefitting everyone, except perhaps exploitative businesses, are "controversial".

It's very difficult to even fire someone here, and even if you did, 3 months to find something else is the norm. More often than not, you'd also be paid without doing much work during that time. If you resign, the company also has 3 months to figure something out.

Why... Would you not want that kind of predictability be the norm? It's not a net benefit to be able to resign or be fired on the spot. The only way that makes any sense is to just focus on one of the sides, at the convenient time. Bleh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

why would you not want that kind of predictability to be the norm?

You say this like this is most people's choice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

You say this like this is most people’s choice

Isn't it?

Setting aside hefty political corruption in the US, and media owned private interests that would make the Pinkertons shed a tear of joy... hm, and aside for a very peculiar election system that not only goes for the worst 2-party approach, but even has set it up in multiple ways in order to allow the minority of the two, to win.... ah... I see your point.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How many Lemmy users do you think have never worked retail customer facing jobs, or food service? I'm betting it's a minority, but I could be wrong.

Either way, whatever internal compass you use to determine another user's job history needs some tuning because I've worked in plenty of service industry jobs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Y'all are pretty tech savvy around here. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that the majority of Lemmy users skipped the retail/CS/hospitality jobs in favor of entry level IT/ tech jobs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Entry level IT is tech support, which is customer service, but with dumber than average customers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’ve spent my life in customer service/retail sales/food service and I doubt this actually happened.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All 2 years of it I see, my man you gotta open your eyes then. The amount of pettiness in that industry is insane. Your ignorance of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My man… just because you’ve seen it doesn’t mean everyone else has or that it’s common. Maybe you’ve just worked a shitty places. But that doesn’t mean it’s industry standard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At least in the US, it seems pretty standard. Never worked retail myself, but everyone I know has hated it. Certainly a lot would like to imagine doing this kind of thing (but few actually would).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I can only say that my experiences in the field has been completely fine- and this includes working for Disney. And I can say that at 52 years old- I’ve been in the business for a long time. Never had a problem with anyone, and no one has had a problem with me.

If a person has a gripe with an entire industry- maybe the problem is with the person and not the industry.