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Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hope we can keep supporting Ukraine. This is one of the few times in history when the scenario is so clear cut good vs evil. The Ukrainians fought hard to get out from under the thumb of Russia and the Russians just couldn’t have that so they invaded. The support the world provides to Ukraine is support provided for all Democracies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Democracy is when you ban all left-leaning parties in your country and burn a hall full of trade unionists alive, and the more parties you ban and trade unionists you burn alive the more democratic you are. I don't see what's so hard for these tankies to get!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ukrainians fought hard to get out from under the thumb of Russia

What?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Euromaiden!?!??? Like a major defining moment in Ukrainian history!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one where NATO backed coup overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine? That seems like the opposite of fighting to get out from under foreign thumb

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one that happened because their leader was passing laws making him a dictator and violently putting down protesters leading to more protests causing him to flee. Also any support came after that was over, not before.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See, if he were a legitimate leader he would have let the west supplant him in a violent coup WITHOUT reacting to it. That makes it justified post hoc.

You have to let the nazis march. It's the rules.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So people in their country should never fight if their leader is working to surpress their rights and become a dictator. They just have to wait for elections that will never be fair again if they even happen. Also he did react to it by fleeing, Putin is not the leader of Ukraine, he has no business reacting to anything.

Putin did march his nazies into Ukraine after that if that's what you mean.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were you at the January 6th riots, per chance? Your sure have the same reasoning as them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not in the US as I never been there. Also was Biden becoming the dictator of the US? Like if he was declaring protests illegal, giving cops legal rights to kill anyone who does protest and basically make himself the supreme ruler of the US then yea it would be justified.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The January 6 protesters certainly believed he was becoming a dictator. I guess the riots were justified.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thinking something is true =/= true

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, you should think about that fact yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So are you saying protests are always unjustified because protestors could be wrong?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK then I'm going to stay with my point that the laws passed that triggered the Euromaidan were very protestable and January 6th in the US was a bunch of crazies that fell for propaganda due to poor US education. Also that protests are a good way to get rid of a wannabe dictator.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm aware that the liberal position is that couping democratic governments is acceptable if they personally agree with it, but unacceptable when other people do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my last reply since I would need to flip my phone to hit the button and that's way too much effort but this seems to have run it's course anyways.

I'm pretty sure the liberal position would be that all violent protests are bad, no matter what. That's why I was asking if that was your position so I could see if you were the rare lib that supports Russia's war.

Also I don't think a coup is when people drive a wannabe dictator out if their country though English isn't my first language. And even if it is I absolutely support people exercising their right to protest and remove a leader trying to dismantle a democracy. I'm not sure what mental gymnastics you are trying to do to equate that to Jan 6th in the US but it makes you sound like a lib.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This is my last reply since I would need to flip my phone to hit the button and that's way too much effort but this seems to have run it's course anyways.

Good lord, this is the most "I'm totally not mad" sentence I've ever seen.

I'm pretty sure the liberal position would be that all violent protests are bad, no matter what.

It's not, liberals are fine with violent protests when it's against their enemies.

Also I don't think a coup is when people drive a wannabe dictator out if their country though English isn't my first language.

Yes, that absolutely is a coup.

And even if it is I absolutely support people exercising their right to protest and remove a leader trying to dismantle a democracy.

So you support the January 6th riots

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, clearcut good is when a government starts building monuments to Holocaust perpetrators, and banning minority languages including Yiddish, followed by a decade of bombing ethnic minorities in a border region.

wtf-am-i-reading