Work Reform

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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

Our Goals

Higher wages for underpaid workers.
Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
Better and fewer working hours.
Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.

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Is it just me or are 9-5 hours naturally the most stifling? (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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for me at least, 8 hours any other time of the day is less bad than the constant awful grind of 9-5

you're always commuting right when everyone else is commuting, you have to be up early every morning (and it always FEELS early -- if you're naturally waking up at noon but have work at 1 that doesn't feel as much like a boot stamping on your face forever), many things are only open during those hours so there's always a time crunch if you have errands

and it just feels worse. you feel like a depressed office worker in a movie. by 5pm the day's already over, the sun is setting in winter. and the most insufferable of all, imo: once it's evening, you start feeling dread for tomorrow. so it's like you're never truly off work because you know you have to go to bed early to be up early to go right back.

somehow these standard hours are the most offensive possible to personal autonomy and mood.

i'm extremely lucky to have a WFH at the moment where i can make my own hours; when i work approx 9-5 like that, i just feel so trapped. i don't want to go to the store before work because i just woke up and can't be bothered, i can't go after because traffic is a nightmare and i'm exhausted by then. it just sucks. there's no mystery or magic to it. working food service until 2am felt cool, it felt cool getting paid to stay up late and make pizza and have a 'good reason' to have a weird sleep schedule and be out super late. 9-5 makes me feel like jim from the office except less charismatic

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

After working in factories for most of my life on this miserable planet, being in an office is a great thing. I think people forget or don’t know how bad it is when you’re working in a non climate controlled building basically being told to work harder and harder, breaking your body AND your spirit. Not feeling well that day? Too bad, the production line won’t slow down for you, so you eventually get taken into the office and chewed out, possibly getting a write up. You would’ve stayed home that day, but your factory only gives you 4 points, and two weeks vacation that you HAVE to put in months ahead for it to be even considered.

Needless to say, I’d much rather 9-5 office and commute than to ever go back to breaking my body and soul at a factory or food establishment.

Stay humble.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think people forget or don’t know how bad it is when you’re working in a non climate controlled building basically being told to work harder and harder.

By your logic we could go on and on comparing worse working condition.

I think this type of thinking is detrimental for our own condition. If we are glad that we are not in a worse condition, why would a CEO (or the state or anyone) give us better condition in general?

I think that complaining is a good thing, because it creates the opportunity for growth

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No. You were not following my logic at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I'm curious about your logic then.
It reads like factory work sucks, so be humble about your office job.
This could be spun to slave labour sucks, so be humble about your factory job.

Two things can be less than great.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is why unions exist. Unions put power back into the workers hands.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I’m all for unions. I’m also all for people not having to work back breaking jobs such as I have. No one should be put through anything like that in this day and age.