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[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I mean, that's great, but isn't this still seggregating people?

Sorry, I'm not even familiar with how NY works, but as a generalization, I think that if you put a fee, you're not necessarily going to remove cars from the streets, but select what cars will be on the streets.

Or maybe this does work, it's been succesfully done on other fields, like tobacco consumption. Idk, I just feel like these things are unfair somehow, I hope it helps tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This an important concern for pretty much everywhere in the US , except NYC.

While I have to admit to being a tourist, not a resident, I do visit most years and would never take a car.

Actually, the one population that needs more attention here is through traffic. People who need to drive to get from somewhere on one side of NYC to get to somewhere on the other side, should have a better answer than paying congestion pricing. I understand they do currently contribute to congestion but maybe it just really needs a better way through that doesn’t

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Poor people do not drive into Manhattan. Without congestion pricing it is too expensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, that's good point. I was thinking more on relative "poorerness" rather than absolute, but maybe that's not even relevant?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

already* too expensive ...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

NYC is very much public transit and bike focused. A very significant portion of people never even learn to drive. The only cars on the road are business, rich people, and ubers. Some parking spots have a higher income than many service workers.

Unfortunately, there's also next to zero enforcement of traffic laws so people get hit and killed by cars daily