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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

See now, when I say lemmy users are the dumbest bunch of people I've ever seen outside of YouTube comments, people say I'm being too harsh. But this comment is currently at +45.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it is not a matter of intelligence to want to understand an info graphic without need to put work in it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you can't understand it at first glance, that's a skill issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's probably foolish to get into an argument with someone who thinks themselves better than me, but i'm bored so

in what world, do you read the word "ratio" then see "7" and instantly go "ah yes, 7/1 can also be seen as 7:1", instead of being confused for a bit because you expected a ratio

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It...specifically explains the part that you were confused about. Right there, below the title.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you literally have to additionally imagine the rest of the ratio anyway. I know dividing 7 by 1 gives you 7, but just a 7 is not a ratio

i give up, you either think yourself better than everyone to the point of refusing to acknowledge how the info graphic presents its information in an unintuitive way, or are OPs alt dying on this hill trying to defend your info graphic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know dividing 7 by 1 gives you 7, but just a 7 is not a ratio

Does this prevent you in any way from comprehending the image? It takes more effort to parse out what you just said than it takes to understand the drawing. I still don't understand why it's relevant but that's beyond the point.

The image title could have said "MALE SUICIDES VS FEMALE SUICIDES (SKABADOO BANANAS WITH PAUL LEMON)" and you should still be able to immediately understand that farther right = more male suicides

Hell you should be able to understand the gist of the image without even having any numbers on the bottom, just "less" on the left and "more" on the right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

seriously, are you deliberately acting like this or do you really not see how the way information is presented is not clear?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I mean you can keep saying that but it doesn't change the fact that you should have paid more attention in school

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Are you colorblind?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why? The red and orange are close in color, otherwise it shows if it is green in color, more women commit suicide than men, then the ratio goes up by color

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If it is green then they have the same average right? 1:1. But in this graph it would be difficult to show when more women committed suicide, which might nowhere be the case.

Or you'd get 0.5 with a color match, for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Women literally never commit suicide at the same rate or less, that's kind of the point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You needed to explain that for it to make sense

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
  • 1: same number of men and women
  • 2: twice as many men, as women
  • 3: three times as many... Etc
  • x: x times as many men

Does this help?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It does but if it was good it wouldn’t need an explanation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The title explains it... If it isn't clear by that, it explains what that means in the text below. That my explanation wad necessary was not really the fault of the infographic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the OP. You're bad at reading graphs, unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Apparently I’m not the only one since this thread was started by someone else who was confused. And should you have to be good at reading graphs to understand one? They should present the information in a clear easy to understand manner. This failed at that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the point of the color bar on the bottom, a part of any good graph

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The color bar means nothing without any label.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

The numbers, right there on the bar, and the text at the top of the image.

"male to female suicide ratio" and then the numbers 1-10, it even explains that it's (men's suicides / women's suicides) so anyone who doesn't know what a ratio is can enjoy as well