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~~Trotsky~~ Ultras takes as the starting point of ~~his~~ their policy of theatrical gestures, not concrete human beings, not the concrete workers of flesh and blood who are living and struggling in ~~Britain~~ the world, but some sort of ideal and ethereal beings who are revolutionary from head to foot. Is it difficult, however, to understand that only persons devoid of common sense take ideal, ethereal beings as the starting point of their policy?
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But such is the fate of "ultra-Left" phrasemongers. Their phrases are Leftist, but in practice it turns out that they are aiding the enemies of the working class. You go in on the Left and come out on the Right.
~ Stalin
From hexbear's run-ins with ultra-dweeb losers from 3 yeara back
It's also an edited quite from Stalin's The Anglo-Russian Unity Committee speech
I hadn't interacted with ultras for two years and I see nothing's changed lol. I mean I've been a marxist for 5-6 years now and it's always been like this with them, but it's funny seeing them act exactly the same with my own eyes in succession.
I have to ask why would you open to people with "China is capitalist and exploiting the workers" over "the US is doing wars for oil"? Why do you think that's the thing you have to start conversations with?
They're gonna say "oh it's just an example" because that's what we all say when we get caught, but the reason we choose one word over another is not random or unexplained, there's a process behind it. Personally I feel like "we're always at war because of oil" is a much simpler fact to convey and one that is more useful to the communist movement than "China is actually capitalist".