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Friday began with House conservatives holding a press conference to trash the $1.2 trillion spending bill their leaders negotiated with Democrats, sparking some fears about its prospects. 

It squeaked through — requiring 67% of the House, it ended up winning 68% — but a majority of Republicans voted against it.

It was just the first headache of the day for House Republicans as they adjourned for a two-week recess, offering a distillation of the infighting and disenchantment that continues to plague the party 15 months into its narrow majority. Things were about to get worse.

Moments later, far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., shocked her colleagues by filing a motion to overthrow Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., blasting his stewardship of the chamber and threatening renewed turmoil at the helm of her party.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Trump voters will vote for him no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

There is more than the presidency. Flipping the house and keeping the Senate are almost as important as winning the presidency. The ideal October special is a house that’s in chaos, together with Trump throwing tantrums because of legal issues.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Dedicated Trump voters are only about 20-30% of voters. The rest who elected him or vote for him are fence-sitters. That’s why he never got the popular vote and barely got enough to win the EC. And why he lost in 2020.

This info is targeted at them, and they actually listened then and listen now.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's not the dedicated trump voters that need this.

It's the dumbasses who have seen everything over the last 8 years and are somehow still on the fence

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It is less about being on the fence versus being motivated to actually go vote. Most people are like "whatever", and "my vote doesn't matter anyhow" and "if I vote, I'm going to get jury duty". If the politicians can't get people to vote, they lose.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nobody is on the fence about this. There are only open Trump supporters and those that won't admit to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Absolutely not. Everyone who voted Biden in the previous election is persuadable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

They are only the openly fascist or the stupidly fascist. Either way they're fascists.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"I know Trump was the worst President we ever had, but why does that mean I should vote for Biden?"

Motherfucker, the fact that you even had to ask that question means you don't deserve the responsibility of participating in the electoral process.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, picking and choosing who gets to participate in democracy isn't democracy. We're stuck with morons among us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately, picking and choosing who gets to participate in democracy isn’t democracy.

That's not necessarily true- direct democracy isn't the same a representative democracy, for example. Also, a very strong case can be made that the US functionally isn't a democracy, since one political party wields outsized amounts of power compared to "the will of the people." A "true" democracy wouldn't allow a President who lost the popular vote, or require a party to get 60%+ of the popular vote to get barely 50% members in Congress.

And yes, I realize the idea that requiring voters to be informed on issues and government opens the door to suppression of voters for illegitimate reasons. I don't know what would be a more ideal solution, but I do know that this

We’re stuck with morons among us.

is a big chunk of the problem. A functioning government requires an invested and educated populace, and too many Americans aren't.