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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In the marketplace of ideas, rightwing thoughts will be mocked, as they always should been...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, this place is full of communists. I’m not the biggest fan of communists, to be frank. There is a lot of backwards ideas that get accepted as “leftist,” when they’re really statist. Particularly revisionist history statist. If a communist party said it, you gotta defend it kinda thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Define 'full of communists'.. cause it sounds like such an american phrase and perspective. To me, it's just a more leftwing centered space. The real communists are a minority. At least on the biggest Lemmy servers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go for a walk in Hexbear and Lemmygrad communities, these are Lemmy's communists...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah but those instances are not nearly as big as lemmyworld and the others. I also didn't say that there were no communists at all. There are just not as many as OP made it out to be.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just checked and you're instance isn't federated with Hexbear so you don't see their users' comments, my instance was federated with them for a couple of days and it made the Lemmy experience a mess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have more than one account, none of them get many communist posts. Maybe there's one in there in a few rare occasions but it's not significant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol I’m not crying “SOCIALISM!” because someone recommended taking care of poor people. And maybe it’s just the communities on lemm.ee, maybe it’s because I interact with the communities more because I can’t bite my tongue. But I come across way more communist communities than anything else. Your instance matters. I see a lot of communist communities. As an anarchist, the prevalence of communism on lemmy is troubling to me because I see huge flaws in the thinking and i want to see the left not follow down a doomed hierarchical road that has proven to be a failure over and over and over again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't identify as a communist. I just don't want life to be unreasonably difficult for people. Thats it. I just what the promise of what labor was supposed to be. I want it to free us from the shackles of work or die. Guess that is extreme left now even with tankies around the corner from us.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. We have 50 years of computer driven exponential growth and not a fucking thing is better for us. We don't work less, travel more, be richer, live a better life, or have a better future for the planet. It should make everyone anti-capitalist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Data I've seen suggests otherwise. Care to engage with me so that we can figure out where the discrepancy lies?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're joking, right? A peasant in the 1200s would work less than a regular person today.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think an average person in 13th century had a better quality of life than an average person living in the 21st century?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In many aspects, yes, they did lead a more fulfilling life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imma call bullshit on that one lol

And sources for that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For one, the fact their work (which took significantly less time) lead to a real, objective difference and benefit in their society. There's also the fact that anyone not enslaved had partial or complete ownership of their lands. Not to be underestimated, as well, is the fact their society wasn't immediately doomed to collapse from worldwide catastrophes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure the women had great lives

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy feels a lot more authentic to real life. If I started talking about tinfoil hat conspiracies, my friends would ridicule me to no end.

As they should.

Same here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

True, I’d expect pretty wild conspiracies like flat earth and chemtrails to be laughed at here, but a disturbing number of lemmings and even progressives in general follow a set of less outlandish - but more insidious - conspiracies that usually fall into the “collusion and malice” type. I could say that General Motors et al. killed most of the US passenger rail and streetcar systems, and most people here would accept that as a fact. Case closed, capitalism is evil and should be abolished, every bad thing is cause by someone with I’ll intentions making it worse.

I, however, tend to be suspicious of those sorts of takes in general. Returning to the alleged “streetcar conspiracy”I’ve actually done quite a lot of research into this and can decidedly say that the primary cause of the decline of mass transit in the US was… There were at least 5 primary causes, none of which were shadowy groups deliberately working to destroy it. Rather it was killed by a changing urban environment, failures to adapt to modal shifts, legacy streetcar systems just generally sucking, and local governments taking transit for granted and assuming that they can hold streetcar companies to exacting standards while expecting them to remain solvent, all while not considering it their problem.

I could go on, and can send some sources and references (maybe not direct links though) if you’d like to learn more. But my main point is that far too many people assume there’s a nefarious actor pulling the strings the whole time when it’s usually several factors lining up all the holes in the Swiss cheese and creating a negative externality we still talk about to this day.

There (usually) isn’t a conspiracy, and if there is it’s unlikely to be anywhere near as all-encompassing as you think. People say there is because it gives them someone to blame, helps channel their anger at something tangible, and just makes a good story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And there are no conservative ideas that aren't tinfoil hat conspiracies, I guess

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I start talking to random people in a bar odds are I won't meet a single one who will start calling me a Nazi because I believe in the Uyghur genocide...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free market Capitalism is the greatest economic system to ever exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What free market? All I have ever known is corporate socialism. Subsidize business with taxpayer dollars. Regulatory capture to prevent competitors from entering the market.