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Content Warning: Graphic descriptions of sexual assault

A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7.

Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.

Four witnesses described in graphic detail seeing women raped and killed at two different places along Route 232, the same highway where Ms. Abdush’s half-naked body was found sprawled on the road at a third location.

And The Times interviewed several soldiers and volunteer medics who together described finding more than 30 bodies of women and girls in and around the rave site and in two kibbutzim in a similar state as Ms. Abdush’s — legs spread, clothes torn off, signs of abuse in their genital areas.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are there a lot of Hamas supporters here? Let alone "did nothing wrong" people?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, only people against the occupation and against the genocide currently happening in Gaza. Pro-zionists like to paint everyone critical of Israel's atrocities as terrorism supporters and as antisemites. But nobody is saying October 7th wasn't horrible. Nobody is saying rape isn't horrible. Resistance to this brutal occupation is always going to be nasty. The Palestinians have no peaceful means to resolve the conflict. That doesn't make terrorism OK but it was inevitable given how Israel is oppressing the Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not just rape but the mutilation. Here's one instance of mutilation and torture from the article:

The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back.

She said she then watched another woman “shredded into pieces.” While one terrorist raped her, she said, another pulled out a box cutter and sliced off her breast.

“One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said.

Yes, Israel has their history of atrocity to with events like the Sabra and Shatila Massacre. But with barbarism like this, I think Israel has justification and obligation to respond with military force. They are not responding with justifiable military measure and will also need to be held to account.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Respond with military force is not bombing the ever loving fuck out of the whole area, making almost all 2 million inhabitants homeless and causing a famine and water crisis. And there are examples of individual IDF atrocities just as well, such as shooting unarmed civilians waving a makeshift white flag. And we only learned about that one because they turned out to be Israeli civilians rather than subhuman Palestinian civilians

Again, nobody is saying Israel doesnt have a right to defend itself. It just doesn't have the right to kill indiscriminately, take people's homes, deny them basic human rights and level Gaza every couple of years.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

I understand that bombing the shit out of them is not the ideal solution. But what on earth should be done when such a barbaric and vicious enemy is aslo hiding deep within civilian population. How the hell do you manage to separate them?