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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The best way to fight back against this is to make lab grown meat so cheap that it is uneconomical to compete with it. Hit them in the bottom line and they'll be hurting.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

Animal products are only cheap because they're heavily subsidized

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Sounds great, hope they can do it... But it usually isn't that simple. I work in a different but simular field. Most of these fake meat companies, especially the quality ones, run very low or negative profits until they can massively scale up into international companies. We also lose money despite we are a good amount more expensive than cheap meat.

Lab grown has the same problem, and it isn't that it is soooo expensive, it's that meat is far too cheap. The real cost of meat is massive but is subsidized in most all processes. In addition to many other issues.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago

That's how it would work in an actual free market - the thing Republicans pretend they support. But...

Months in jail and thousands of dollars in fines and legal fees—those are the consequences Alabamians and Arizonans could soon face for selling cell-cultured meat products that could cut into the profits of ranchers, farmers, and meatpackers in each state.

The point is precisely to prevent anyone being able to compete with lab-grown meat, no matter how cheap it might otherwise be.