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Goldman was the most dovish member of the Zionist movement, directly responsible for the idea of a partition plan during meetings in Paris in 1946 program, as opposed to the Biltmoore conference, in which scum like Ben-Gurion exalted the idea of taking over all of Palestine. He was the one who pleaded with the British authorities to accept his plan before they transferred the matter to the UN in mid-late 1947.

for with a State you have some minimal stability and you can get an army and all other infra structure that they didn’t have before.

Even before the existence of Israel, there was already effectively an embryonic state, called the Jewish agency, with Ben-Gurion serving both as Minister of Defense and Prime Minister. Its military was called the Hagana, which oversaw many ethnic cleansing operations and countless surveillance and reconnaissance operations, known as the “village files”. Their main money source was the JNF (Jewish monetary fund), which they used to buy plots of land from absentee landlords and to fund their campaigns.

If the Palestinians also took this into consideration they could, I guess, be far better now.

Pretty sure that with everything I’ve said before, it disproves this claim. They would NOT be better off and had every right to criticise and denounce a plan that came straight out of the zionists. They had been building settlements and kicking out the native population as early as the mid 1910s, when Palestine was still under Ottoman rule. They also tried to accept Britain's system of “parity” with the settlers (that in practice favoured the latter), only for the latter to reject it and pave way to the 1929 (and in a way 1936) riots.

Lastly I highly doubt a Palestinian state could ever exist properly alongside the Zionist entity, as the latter's existence is predicated on genocide, violence and ethnic cleansing, but I can see where you’re coming from. Hamas supports a 2 state solution (probably as a temporary goal), so that gives me enough of a reason to support it too.

I might check out your book and I also recommend Ilan Pappe's “the ethnic cleansing of Palestine”. Genuinely amazing

Fair enough lmfao

Absolutely, it’s just that many aren’t willing to listen.

They will. The Zionist project is inherent unsustainable. However, I agree that for now it’s unrealistic not to settle for pre-1967 borders (decolonisation of Gaza and West Bank)

This is probably gonna get brigaded to death and I'm here for it

not since 1948, since much, much earlier. Even before Palestine was under British rule.

cuteeeeee

Comrade Oppo has become a bourgeois revisionist

Almost done with reading blackshirts and reds, what an amazing book; the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe is also amazing.

TIANANMEN DIDN'T HAPPEN!!! IT'S NOT A REAL PLACE!!!!

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where ":D"

ofc we can, throughout history there have been people who had happy moments even under horrible conditions, so who's to say we can't have a few happy moments under a rapidly deteriorating system in the imperial core?