st33lb0ne

Understatement of the century

How about "Apple Idiocracy" ?

"Trump demands"... LOL

Not what I meant idd. Genocide whoever wins the next elections

I recognise Palestine.. wish my country would too :(

There`s just no winning on this matter. Genocide Joe or dictator fascist Trump with even more genocide

"Model"

Haha.. I totally missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.

Honestly.. the big bar gives it away for me. But I agree with looking more like a bike.

Not the typical fatbike im referring to but ok. Here in NL we have big problem with fatbikes like these illegally modified to go 50km/h They look like this for example

There are quite a few issues we`re having here in the NL:

• Many fatbikes are illegaly modified to go 50km instead of 25
• When riding modified fatbikes you are uninsured, in case of an accident the other party has a big problem
• There is no age limit, we have many young teens riding fatbikes. Way too young for such a fast bike. Imagine 10 year olds going 50 km/h straight though a crowded marketplace, a weekly sight here I personally saw many times.
• Bike lanes and infra in NL are designed for sub 25 km/h traffic, many fatbikes however drive much faster. This creates dangerous situations for normal bikes. The traffic plan simply wasnt designed for such fast vehicles.
• There is no mandatory helmet by law here, as a result the annual deaths amongst cyclist is higher then ever. Since helmets became mandatory for moped drivers many swithed to modified fatbikes
• Fatbikes are often way faster and heavy then a normal bike. If you do crash into a normal cyclist the damage is way worse

To conclude, Ìm not saying every ebike or fatbike is wrong. Here in the Netherlands the lack of good regulation and law is having a big impact on road safety for cyclists and pedestrians. We need good regulation asap

That being said: What country are you from? I`m wondering what is different there regulation wise

Where are you from dude? NL based or elsewhere?

Asking because you clearly live in a different world then I do And also completely deaf to all my previous arguements about issues we`re having here. . in the Netherlands.

But hey .. im glad you`re happy with your ride.

In the US you (hardly) have any bicycle infastructure and ride on the same road as cars.

In the Netherlands bikes and vulnerable traffic ride on seperate lanes. Introducing bikes that go 50 km/s there driven by 10 years creates a problem. This issue simply doesnt exist in the US, hence the different classification and laws

Also: Many fatbikes here are illegal and/or tweaked. People simply dont care and ride around uninsured and unsafe at 50 km/s while using their phone.

I absolutely agree with this.

At this point making a helmet and insurance mandatory and minimal age is only logical. How many fatbikes will we see if any of the above becomes reality?

Here in the Netherlands fatbikes really started to become a thing after they made helmets mandatory for moped drivers