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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Not just infrastructure, payments are also convenient with Ali pay/WeChat pay. Everyone pays everything by phone, most haven't used cash or card in years, although you can if you want. Apps are also ridiculously well designed and integrated, less visible as a foreigner, as much if it is obviously in Chinese and you have a language barrier. But you can really do anything you can imagine in WeChat. Alipay can also translate in miniapps. Say you are in a restaurant, you will scan a qr code on the table, can have a menu that you can automatically translate if you so chose. You also can order and pay through that menu on your phone.

Bureaucracy exists like everywhere else, but tends to be faster and more efficient in my experience. It's not perfect, but the country does feel very different.

Also, it doesn't depend that much on the city. I have been to most large cities in China, many small and medium sized ones too. I have also been to the countryside. The latter is more relaxed, but everywhere has technology and infrastructure. Basically all cities are serviced by train. Towns will all have bus systems that mean you can get anywhere in the country with public transportation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not that surprising given FT recently reported (archive) "China on cusp of next-generation chip production despite US curbs". That said, like always, China does things at astounding speed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Thanks for that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Orientalism definitely plays a role

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, no system, group, or party is infallible. There are many genuine critiques that can and should be made.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4045522

(Never cross posted before, if this is incorrect/wrong/breaks any rules mods please delete or let me know and I'll delete, I just thought this might be interesting and wanted some discussion)

Some thoughts and points I've noticed in/about China:

  1. Everything you hear from Global North media is wrong or misleading. Perhaps there are a few exceptions, but if you ever come to China you will find all the media narratives are false or misleading.
  2. You should always try to keep in mind the diversity, size, and expansive history of China when trying to analyze or understand it. China has 56 officially recognized ethnic groups, the land mass is slightly larger than all the US (any articles that say China is smaller are using the CIA world factbook which counts certain maritime zones for the US but not China), and China/Chinese culture has a history of some 5,000 years. (Liberal analysis is already unreliable, but also ignores just about all of this)
  3. On the topic of ehthic minorities, they enjoy quite a bit of support for their culture and socioeconomic status. Minorities with significant presence in provinces (e.g.: Xinjiang) and smaller administrative divisions will have special “autonomous” statuts. They have special provisions, for example ID cards will be written in Simplified Chinese and the language of the ethnic group. Minorities also have preferential treatment (similar to affirmative action) for university entrance. Moreover there are special universities for “nationalities” (ethnic minorities) such as the well reputed Minzu University in Beijing.
  4. Global North economic indicators like GDP per capita don’t measure the level of development well. While people work hard throughout the country, they also have a good quality of life and opportunities. This includes smaller cities which according to Global North statistics would be much poorer, and should have access to less services. (Also everywhere is extremely safe, both from petty and violent crime)
  5. Political sentiment is complicated, it’s not overwhelmingly negative, but there is differently a divergence and a plurality of opinions. In the countryside you will find many homes, including new ones, with large portraits of Mao. Shanghai on the other hand is very liberal. However the party has generally good support and no real political opposition internally.
  6. The party is ingrained into society. Many young people aspire to join the party, which is a competitive process. Institutions such as universities have official party committees, which jolw much of the power. Likewise, most companies also have a party presence and oversight.
  7. Despite developing rapidly, China is very large and still has some regions and areas in need of development. The party is aware of this and has is doing and exemplary job. Young people are encouraged to go to the countryside to volunteer and work. Many young officials are sent to work in such areas. There is a reason why a majority of the reduction in poverty globally is thanks to China.
  8. Global North, particularly American cultural hegemony has influence still. It’s is waning, but is certainly a challenge and is one of the key issues to address. While the youth has political education, it seems to not be particularly effective. The party should probably try it’s best to present attractive and engaging counter narratives. This has had success on geopolitical issues, such as Russia/Ukraine where most people have an ML or ML adjacent position. However, it remains to be developed for economic and social issues. “Western” economics is taught uncritically in many institutions.
  9. Relatedly, many people are pessimistic at times about China’s future economic trajectory and growth. This may be because of the Western influence in economic understanding. I believe China’s economy has good potential, as long as the party keeps steering the market and SOE well, as they have done. Also, China is fundamentally restructuring it’s economy to become green, which is at the expense of some areas/cities, e.g.: those that produce coal. That being said it is for the overall good of the economy and society. Moreover, the greening of China was pioneered by comrade Xi, which is a position he has held long before it was mainstream or popular in China or the West.

Sorry for any typos. I'd welcome discussion and to hear others thoughts.

 

Some thoughts and points I've noticed in/about China:

  1. Everything you hear from Global North media is wrong or misleading. Perhaps there are a few exceptions, but if you ever come to China you will find all the media narratives are false or misleading.
  2. You should always try to keep in mind the diversity, size, and expansive history of China when trying to analyze or understand it. China has 56 officially recognized ethnic groups, the land mass is slightly larger than all the US (any articles that say China is smaller are using the CIA world factbook which counts certain maritime zones for the US but not China), and China/Chinese culture has a history of some 5,000 years. (Liberal analysis is already unreliable, but also ignores just about all of this)
  3. On the topic of ehthic minorities, they enjoy quite a bit of support for their culture and socioeconomic status. Minorities with significant presence in provinces (e.g.: Xinjiang) and smaller administrative divisions will have special “autonomous” statuts. They have special provisions, for example ID cards will be written in Simplified Chinese and the language of the ethnic group. Minorities also have preferential treatment (similar to affirmative action) for university entrance. Moreover there are special universities for “nationalities” (ethnic minorities) such as the well reputed Minzu University in Beijing.
  4. Global North economic indicators like GDP per capita don’t measure the level of development well. While people work hard throughout the country, they also have a good quality of life and opportunities. This includes smaller cities which according to Global North statistics would be much poorer, and should have access to less services. (Also everywhere is extremely safe, both from petty and violent crime)
  5. Political sentiment is complicated, it’s not overwhelmingly negative, but there is differently a divergence and a plurality of opinions. In the countryside you will find many homes, including new ones, with large portraits of Mao. Shanghai on the other hand is very liberal. However the party has generally good support and no real political opposition internally.
  6. The party is ingrained into society. Many young people aspire to join the party, which is a competitive process. Institutions such as universities have official party committees, which jolw much of the power. Likewise, most companies also have a party presence and oversight.
  7. Despite developing rapidly, China is very large and still has some regions and areas in need of development. The party is aware of this and has is doing and exemplary job. Young people are encouraged to go to the countryside to volunteer and work. Many young officials are sent to work in such areas. There is a reason why a majority of the reduction in poverty globally is thanks to China.
  8. Global North, particularly American cultural hegemony has influence still. It’s is waning, but is certainly a challenge and is one of the key issues to address. While the youth has political education, it seems to not be particularly effective. The party should probably try it’s best to present attractive and engaging counter narratives. This has had success on geopolitical issues, such as Russia/Ukraine where most people have an ML or ML adjacent position. However, it remains to be developed for economic and social issues. “Western” economics is taught uncritically in many institutions.
  9. Relatedly, many people are pessimistic at times about China’s future economic trajectory and growth. This may be because of the Western influence in economic understanding. I believe China’s economy has good potential, as long as the party keeps steering the market and SOE well, as they have done. Also, China is fundamentally restructuring it’s economy to become green, which is at the expense of some areas/cities, e.g.: those that produce coal. That being said it is for the overall good of the economy and society. Moreover, the greening of China was pioneered by comrade Xi, which is a position he has held long before it was mainstream or popular in China or the West.

Sorry for any typos. I'd welcome discussion and to hear others thoughts.

 

Archive link: https://archive.ph/19l1e

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Archived link/paywall bypass: https://archive.is/VbSPI

Also, you would think a region once plagued by unrest and terrorism (fomented by our favorite imperialist power of course), now stable and prospering would be cause for celebration? No? Also about NEV subsidies, isn't this what all countries should be doing? Besides, the Global North has long subsidized industries when they chose to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Related, China has become the number one scientific destination with the largest inflow of researchers outstripping the US, according to OECD data as reported (archive) by Science Business. I can't cite the OECD data since it seems to be behind a paywall, but I believe you can find it here.

China also leads the world with nearly half of all applications for international patents (46.8%), trademarks (48.3%), and industrial designs (53.8%).

Japan's science and technology ministry also conducted a study, as reported (archive) by Nikkei Asia, and found China leads the world in research papers. Both in quantity and quality.

A report by Clarivate substantiates this. This report also describes how China is not reliant with collaboration with the Global North for research, and that China is expanding research with Global South countries.

Despite all this, in the imperial core they still believe China can't innovate. All while China is out-innovating the Global North.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I can confirm Lemmygrad is accessible. Hexbear is, but loads VERY slowly in my experience. No such issue for Lemmygrad.

By the way, the firewall varies slightly in different provinces. That being said Lemmygrad seems accessible everywhere.

ps: most sites are accessible. Only big American tech sites that don't want to follow local law (Google, Facebook, etc.) are blocked. Many other websites are not blocked but just load really slowly. Not certain why, part of it may be the websites throttling IP address from China.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

A humble leader.

Anecdotaly, I can confirm through an acquaintance who met him, Xi is very humble and friendly. He was described as much taller and thin than he appears in photos. When talking to him, my acquaintance said Xi conversed like one might with an old friend.

Some good Xi quotes from the article:

"You have read a lot of books, but there is much 'water' in the knowledge you learned. You need to squeeze out the 'water' by testing the knowledge in practice and in interaction with the masses."

"[A]im high while keeping your feet firmly on the ground"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It betrays some deep sated hostility and vehement hatred to the global south. The mentality of colonialism never truly went away, it just evolved.

 

Wholesome solidarity; hope this improves your day.