Moui, je vois pas trop ce que ça change à la conversation sachant qu'on est nous même dé-fédéré de exploding-heads justement parce qu'ils sont nazis.
Goat n'a pas particulièrement pesé sur la décision d'ouvrir un vote, il est même arrivé bien après que la décision soit prise.
Puis je vais me répéter, j'ai pas particulièrement envie de dé-fédérer, cf mes réponses dans le thread initiant la tempête de caca, même si j'ai une haine profonde non dissimulée pour les tankies.
Bah fallait pas poser de questions alors frérot si tu voulais pas de réponse.
J'sais bien que tu t'en bas les couilles en vrai et que ton gauchisme est performatif mais que t'es grosso modo un mec un contrarien edgy qui est né trop tard pour être un nazi sur 4chan.
Hexbear still federates with you as everyone can see at https://hexbear.net/instances, and you still federate with Hexbear as everyone can see at https://jlai.lu/instances.
Hexbear did defederate by removing us from the allowed instances, which break federation of at least the comments.
You can see the difference in content from https://jlai.lu/post/12056905?scrollToComments=true and https://hexbear.net/post/3822135
No jlai.lu user can comment on hexbear since they soft defederated and I guess the opposite is true.
We’d appreciate it if you represent the facts accurately before accusing us of intellectual dishonesty.
I mean, see what I'm talking about when I'm speaking about projection?
If some of the instances believe that our explicit Marxist viewpoint is too extreme for them
Please stop using this word when not an ounce of materialist analysis is present in your political reflection.
See, should have read the rest too!
I did not know about the phrase… They are literaly making a french reddit
More like an alternative, since it was born from the reddit "boycott" period.
The name come from a "rancisation" of the name reddit, since initially the biggest community was "rance", that likes to translate english terms literally for fun.
pulling something from a year back,
I'm pretty sure that it was just for context if you're referring to the previous post about defederating.
we also have people calling for a change in platform because the devs of lemmy have Castro profile pictures.
To which you don't even see me entertaining the argument.
I also call for a change in platform, but it's because they are shit devs and project managers, releasing broken updates after broken updates, ignoring security issues and overall not being good devs.
I don't care about who makes an open-source product, but that's another subject.
there was no attempt to prevent the tempreture of the discussion to rapidly rise.
I mean they came over already hot, I'm always up for shitposting but seems I'm in the minority.
Third I do take issue with the final labeling intentional or incidental that all of the members here are toxic
Tbh you were just put in the toxic tankies bin with hexbears because you are the only other instance users that came up directly flinging shit in the initial thread, your initial reputation and I cbb.
I don't like tankies, I even hate them and all they represent historically.
But as I said openly in the initial thread, this is not enough of a reason to defederate.
“I’m just joking about murdering you bro, come on, it’s your fault you’re too ignorant to get it” – this sort of shit is why I told you to fuck off. You are just trolling and getting the appropriate response: disrespect.
To cite an intellectual :
You don’t get to whine about this when you do the same exact thing.
You can either be honest, acknowledge that people get heated on the internet sometime, and acknowledge that you do that too, or you can keep up the insults and pretend like there isn’t shit all over your hands, too.
If you could read more than a sentence, you'd have read that in my response above.
Yeah, I respond in a flame war started by stupid people because it's funny, but when I come with a witty reference after you call for a french genocide, you are here whining and projecting that behavior on me lol.
You're just trying to make yourself a victim, I get it, but I don't really care. You could have called for my mum to be raped I wouldn't have cared any less.
My point was just that tankies came in a thread to throw shit, and now are crying that shit are being sent back. You just think I'm trolling because you missed a reference to a tale that we are taught about in primary school, you do you.
Il y a quand même un comble quand on vient défédérer une instance “autoritaire” et se dire non-autoritaire. C’est pas autoritaire de forcer la déféd ? Ce n’est pas intolérant d’empêcher les gens de parler entre eux ?
Fun fact, c'est hexbear qui défédère, pendant que nous on a juste une consultation pour le moment, hein. Consultation qui implique les membres de l'instance, donc par définition c'est pas autoritaire non plus.
Fais un minimum d'effort d’honnêteté intellectuelle stp.
Comme quoi le gauchisme transcende les pays et les moeurs pour s’installer dans toutes les voies, le chien galeux qui marche aux côtés de Lénine à ses dépends, comme dans le poème.
sa fé réfléchir
Ah bon depuis quand ?
Jsp, je vais pas faire un cours d'histoire mais si on cible que la Chine contemporaine, je dirais depuis Ma Fuxiang, mais ça s'inscrit dans la politique impériale de la dynastie Qing, où l'envoi de colons Han dans des territoires d'importance stratégique était la norme.
Politique toujours en cours dans plus ou moins tous les territoires chinois, notamment au Xinjiang et depuis un peu plus récemment, Hong-Kong. Pour Xinjiang t'as eu plusieurs versions de réglementations locales dans les années 80 et 90, et la dernière mouture, centrale, elle, est connue chez nous comme la "Stike Hard Against Violent Terrorism" de 2014, qui continue la même chose en un peu plus rapide, mais a "juste" ajouté les fameux camps.
C'est tellement vieux et assumé que google sinisation ou sinicization te donnera plus ou moins toutes les pistes pour te renseigner si t'en as vraiment quelque chose à faire. C'est une conséquence direct du fonctionnement clanique et dynastique de la Chine impériale depuis des millénaires.
Pendant ce temps nous on continue de fédérer avec toutes les “vraies” instances lemmy, c’est elles qui défédèrent.
Je comprend pas, personne veut parler avec moi alors que moi j'ai pas de problème pour parler avec eux. Ça doit être le monde entier le problème.
As I said on hexbear, I thought that an obvious reference to the Chinese tale of the frog in the well, in this context, would be funny, but I guess there was some over-expectation of the level of literacy of the average reader.
Even then, taken literally, this post was made well after the thread where you people were asking for terrorist attacks in France and overall genocide of French people, so I once again would like to point out the double standard.
Also, there is a difference between whining and explaining, but whatever you want to make yourself the victim, bébou.
Since OP pinged me, and is also banned since for this attempt at brigading/shit stirring and overall bad faith posting, I'll do a quick recap of what actually happened.
Some jlai.lu guy got manhandled somewhere on the lemmyverse by a hexbear user and opened a thread on the Meta community of jlai.lu, used to discuss the instance functioning.
Pretty much told him to fuck off, that's internet for you, I don't intend to defederate.
Some hexbear and grad user then, for some reason, ended up in this thread behaving like monkeys shitting in their hands and throwing it on people.
Most of jlai.lu users then, when confronted to these people, wanted nothing to do with them and wanted us to defederate.
Since it was not one guy anymore and me having something else to do in my weekend to handle children on the internet, opened a vote to see if it was a general request or just a few people wanting to defederate.
The vote is still on-going, and hexbear defederated us because I guess they didn't like people challenging their bullshit and hurting their circlejerk.
The list of things listed in the thread is the list of reasons I was given as a reason to de-federate. I didn't check because I simply don't care since I'm against the defederation in the first place. I gave my standing in the different threads and in separate comments, as long as what I think of tankies and overall defederation.
I, as a long time internet user, even participated in the flame war because I think this is funny, but actually replied to people actually wanting to discuss.
I'm still not for defederation because I think this is a nothingburger that ended up a subject entirely because of your (grad and bear) own making, but since there is no positive or interesting participation between our instances mostly due to the language barrier, I won't veto a defederation if the overall community don't want to bother with your toxic members.
Non, le traitement c'est le ban.
La misogynie, comme toute autre discrimination, n'a pas sa place ici.