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So many people love to shit on these "commie-blocks" for no real reason. in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Ok im gonna try typing out some of the observations of living in commie blocks from personal experience as well as some stories from my friends. Im also spoilering it for anyone who doesn't want to read the list.. also also.. not a comprehensive list of everything, just what I can think of on my lunch break

here goes

The first thing to point out in my opinion is the construction: The construction of these were often rushed so at best they require expensive renovations and at worst they collapse, see tofu dreg in china
Safety: This is something I remember from my safety classes back in school. We had to make a fire escape plan for our houses, with at least 2 exits.. which I really struggled with cause I lived on a high floor, so no jumpimg out the window, and no fire escapes only meant I could do 1. So the commie apartments don't meet our modern safety standards
Location: A lot of this down to the economic collapse of various commusist countries, but many of them are quite literally in a middle of nowhere, in terms of finding a job. This is something I struggled with a lot, cause any job I could find would require a car to commute
Parking space: The commie blocks were often designed with green space in mind which would be nice, if they weren't also not designed with the idea of every household having a car, so when you have 16 parking spaces and the rest of the 40 cars in the mud that was once grass they start to look a lot more depressing
Accesability: The majority of commie blocks had no elevators, with the exception of quite tall ones. And even then the elevator usually started at the first floor rather than ground floor. This means if you're disabled and the only available social housing is commie blocks.. tough shit cause you're not getting in. I know someone who's a single mother with a disabled adult daughter who's she the primary caretaker off. She would have to carry her daugher up and down a flight of stairs everyday, and then also drag the electric wheelchair up
Renovations: Pretty simple - the apartments are usually owned by individuals, rather than a housing company, and getting all 60 or so people to agree to renovate the outside of the building is imposible, with both poorer people and older people stubborn to change, as well as alcoholics and the like
Utilities/equipment: Many of the commie blocks in my area didn't have city gas, that means for cooking anything you either had to have an electric stove, or more commonly from what I've seen buy big gas tanks and lug them up to your floor. They also lacked extractor fans, so I hope you like greasy walls
Insulation: Have you seen soviet wall carpets? It's cause even with the windows closed you could feel the breeze through the walls. The winters there meant multiple jackets indoors, and the summers were unbearably hot too
Insulation pt 2: With high humidity it also meant mold. Fun right?
Insulation pt 3: No noise insulation either. At least meant the cops got called a lot for all the spousal abuse

Just to name a few :3.. im gonna go eat now

So many people love to shit on these "commie-blocks" for no real reason. in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't see where I said socialism can't work. I said that after living in a commie block for around 15 years I know that they aren't good housing :p..

So many people love to shit on these "commie-blocks" for no real reason. in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

In the same way being shot in the liver is better than being shot in the back of the head, sure. But if I saw someone saying victims of shootings that got bodyshot are "shitting on it for no reason" and "they only hate that their bullet scar is ugly" I'd call them out too.

Just cause something is better than the absolute worst doesn't mean it's immune from all criticism. There's probably a fallacy name for this, but I don't know it off the top of my head.. I shall call it "the starving kid fallacy" for now after the classic example of "there are starving kids in africa so you should eat your vegetables" that parents do.. and it the same way OP is doing by saying "there are homeless people, so you should be content with living in a commie block". It's just guilt tripping people for being dissatisfied with their situation for no particular gain other than a perceived moral high ground

So many people love to shit on these "commie-blocks" for no real reason. in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Honestly if I wasn't busy at work I'd make a whole list of why commie blocks are bad, including why they hardly make good social housing

So many people love to shit on these "commie-blocks" for no real reason. in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (21 children)

As someone from a post-soviet country, and had to live in one of those.. there's plenty of reasons to shit on them.

When badguys kill "even the women and children" shouldn't that be MORE acceptable because it isn't discriminatory? in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was gonna do a whole joker-esque spiel about society and how ingrained certain gender roles are, with men being seen as more disposable, but then I realized that sarcasm is dead, and I should've been in bed an hour ago.. so just pretend I said something smart