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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This was the text (translated):

Do you consider it necessary to preserve the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics, in which the rights and freedoms of a person of any nationality will be fully guaranteed?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I am however saying that regardless of the facts

That's nice, have a good day!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Huh, TIL. The main point still stands that the soviet union actually made a lot of progress on human rights, even compared to imperialist countries with more accumulated capital.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Because immigrants are already biased due to having to leave, and they're still generally normal about China.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I never made that argument though. Are you here to shadowbox or talk?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

The new union treaty should have been stopped based on the results of the referendum, which overwhelmingly supported the maintaining of the current federal system.

Soviet Union had a single referendum and it immediately caused a coup and destruction of the whole Union. No wonder they didn’t want to have them before lel

The soviet union was constantly under siege since its infancy. Its latter years were marked with reforms which took power away from the local level of federated democracy and liberalized many aspects of their society. At the end capitalist viewpoints were being printed and published in state run and paid for media. It died a death of a thousand cuts since ww2 killed so many of their rank and file best-disrupting their lower level democracy-, and Stalin's re-democratization efforts were cut short by his assassination.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

who told you not to trust the American government.

You don't have to be told not to trust it. Even deluded Chuds who guzzle US corporate propaganda all day don't trust it.

Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.

No, the meme implies that your distrust isn't justified, not that trust is justified.

Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.

Okay, have you talked to any recent(as in the last 10 years) immigrants from China who don't make way over the median US income? Or hell, earlier immigrants mostly only complain about the liberalization period under Deng.

There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed

This doesn't really acknowledge the class character of the state.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Saying that they do propaganda and censorship as like a "you can't trust them" justification is ridiculous though. Literally all states do those things, and non-state solutions don't work, as has been repeatedly demonstrated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

True intellectualism is doing proper investigation before speaking. How many ordinary Chinese people have you talked to? Have you visited China?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

It died because after a referendum for its dissolution failed, there was a power struggle as the communists tried to prevent Yeltsin from doing it anyway, and Yeltsin ended up ordering tanks to fire on the parliament building until the communist pro-democracy forces surrendered. Then the soviet union broke up and 7 million people died from capitalist shock therapy aided by bourgeois "democratic" governments.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (9 children)

The point is you're making an unsourced claim which doesn't align with the topic of conversation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Could I trouble you for some citations?

they were often basic with communal kitchens and bathrooms

The horror, the horror. A building made a decade after a sixth of their population and most of their infrastructure was destroyed by a capitalist invasion and there was communal amenities. Also do you prefer to cook alone?

 
 
 

Why was it there to begin with I wonder?

 

The far left of the US' overton arrow slit is backtracking on the war now. https://youtu.be/jpUN0q35Lak

Mainstream US news backsliding on the Ukraine war narrative is pretty newsworthy.

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