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Are we shocked? Does anyone know what comes next?


Originally Posted By u/Quail-New At 2025-04-14 12:43:57 PM | Source


 

Originally Posted By u/Enough_Talk_6328 At 2025-04-14 12:26:32 PM | Source


 

If we need a theme for this coming weekend’s protests, let it be this. Disappearing people is not OK. Trump said that it would be up to El Salvador to return Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. President Nayib Bukele of El Salvador, in a visit to the Oval Office, said the idea that he would send the man back was “preposterous.”

This is full-blown authoritarianism and complete disregard for Supreme Court orders


Originally Posted By u/someotherguyrva At 2025-04-14 01:30:28 PM | Source


 

The people in charge want to throw this under the rug. We need to let every American know that Abrego Garcia was politically kidnapped and is probably dead (or otherwise the people in charge should release information about him and work to bring him home). This needs to be our #1 focus right now. We CANNOT let this one slide.


Originally Posted By u/DreadnaughtHamster At 2025-04-14 03:29:49 PM | Source


 

Senator Van Hollen pledges to go to El Salvador and try to get Kilmar Abrego Garcia back himself. How do we support him in this incredibly important task? Our democracy literally depends on this.

Do we implore our own Senators to join him? Flood him with small dollar donations? Let's put as much juice behind him as we can to show that the American people.

Ideas and calls-to-action are welcome.


Originally Posted By u/TheArchitect_7 At 2025-04-14 04:44:40 PM | Source


 

Video Got alerted to this via another post. But wanted to reaffirm it with what I found.

Google earth is actively covering up the satellite images of CECOT that have been being posted from Google earth/maps over the last few days. These satellite images seem to expose a kill site in the center of the detention compound where americans have been wrongfully sent to. In the image what appears to be a flow of blood and pile of bodies can be seen. (Image 1 in comments)

Now when using the exact same search from my search history you can see it pulls up one of two random locations. Neither being the actual compound. (see direct Google images search to see the original location it pulled up was definitely CECOT)(Image 2 in comments)

This is terrifying shit guys. We need to keep reposting the evidence. Don't let them slide this under the rug. This is all coming on the backs of a surpeme court order demanding trump's regime to facilitate the return of Abrego Garcia(wrongly deported Maryland father). Today they hosted the dictator of El Salvador and he said he would not allow the release of Mr.Garcia. This will make it seem as if its out of the regimes hands so they are not actively defying the supreme court order. The time for peace is over when they start sending innocent people to kill camps. Rise up and fight.


Originally Posted By u/Extension_Grocery_44 At 2025-04-14 12:58:29 PM | Source


 

Trump has crossed the final red line and is defying SCOTUS. He is saying OPENLY that he will begin to kidnap citizens to be sent to a concentration camp in a foreign country, beyond the reach of American law.

I have no idea how such a thing can be organized and I don't think I've seen anything discussing the practical logistics behind such a thing. There is generalstrikeus.com and or a general strike but I don't even know who is behind it, or what they think will trigger a general strike. Their idea is for a general strike to be triggered when 3.5% of the populace signs up. This is a great idea but I fear the moment for a strike will pass before that happens.

I ask that we discuss the following:

  1. What should trigger a general strike and is one called for now?
    • The80sAreBackBaby has created a post calling for a general strike tomorrow, April 15th. They state that we should not wait for a leader to call for a strike and instead we should all call out of work for one day, to prove that we can do it. They have very kindly updated their posted, and commented here, with why they think and immediate and temporary strike is called for.
  2. If and when a general strike occurs, very few of us will be able to support ourselves and families for long. What do we need to do build a support network to help families feed themselves?
    • gladesguy argues that significant preparation is needed before a general strike is called, including getting the word out, bringing organizations like unions on board, and preparing food donations and medical care.
  3. I believe the goal of a general strike should be the impeachment, conviction, and removal of Trump. What do you think should be the goal?
  4. Based off a comment from u/kimmycorn1969 Should a general strike last until a specific goal is reached? Or, should it last a fixed amount of time to demonstrate the power of the people to withhold their power?

Originally Posted By u/ap0s At 2025-04-14 02:16:26 PM | Source


 

Call in. Do it tomorrow, nationwide.

Prove that you can do it for just one day.

Post your stories here.

We are almost out of time.

Now is the moment.

The line has been crossed.

—Edit, in response and due to requests from comments:

We need a one day nationwide flex tomorrow.

No. It's sadly can't wait.

Yes, other general strikes can also be planned, however—tomorrow needs to happen in a big way.

This admin is not waiting for us. Those that can should do what they can now. One day (tomorrow, 5/15) is approachable, and remember: while we all debate the how and why—letting perfect become the enemy of good enough—they are moving faster.

They are moving faster than congress. Faster than the protests. Faster than the press. Faster than your states. Faster than you or I can digest the last bit of news. Faster than the courts.

Nobody debates on if they have crossed the proverbial line anymore.

We cannot wait any longer. We need a powerful one day nationwide flex in response.

They are not waiting for us to organize better.

Read that last line again.

EDIT 2-

I still think we have to change the rules.

They will not be waiting for us to organize.

If social clout and reach is important, share this post. Get a member of congress to share it today. Someone in 50501 has connections.

I'm done explaining away why something can't be done now.

Let's not be like everyone else on up the chain.

Make an example of yourselves. Use your connections, and if you are the only one striking, well at least that's you

But this constant need to get buy in, get approval, seek timelines, plan out future dates is our Achilles heel. It's what Europe talks about in disgust when they perceive Americans as just going along with it.

We've got to start now

As news spreads, let them join us

Anything else will be easily countered by this admin.

They don't stop and plan stuff out.

Sure, plan for next week. Or month. But ALSO tomorrow.

Because, frankly, I think 50501 is in real danger of being crushed once the admin has their pawns in place.

Our time is almost up.

Tomorrow we need to start with us.

Spread the word.

Final EDIT- (gotta get a break!)

To the naysayers and peeps worried about reach / turnout / effectiveness:

My first 50501 protest drew 5 people. We're a small town.

This last one drew 1500. Once again, we are a small town.

Movements start with you and me.

Let's begin the work.


Originally Posted By u/The80sAreBackBaby At 2025-04-14 02:56:13 PM | Source


 

I was flagged by Reddit today saying I meant to potentially harm someone. Like what in actual world. I had only called propaganda Barbie as propaganda Barbie. We need to move away from Reddit y’all. Reddit is now under broligargs control. 😞


Originally Posted By u/Fun_Country6430 At 2025-04-14 12:24:19 PM | Source


 

Let's talk about the protests and our sub everywhere we can today friends. We're near the fever pitch.

We need numbers, we need to send a message that We The People will not let this happen. We need to demand consequences for defying SCOTUS. We need to demand consequences for sending people to other countries to likely be killed.

Let's go, friends. Especially those who may not be able to join us in the streets. This is a great way to be involved. Promote promote promote.

It's time, guys. Let's do this. 🇺🇸


Originally Posted By u/SewRuby At 2025-04-14 01:58:45 PM | Source


 
0. Preamble

So, the protest on April 5th just finished, and it was wildly successful. Some estimates put attendance at 5.2 million—which is record breaking. The very next day, 50501's official communication platforms announced a national protest on the 19th. But now, they've seemingly backtracked to saying it’s a "day of action." I get it; absolutely everyone is itching to get out there again as soon as possible. I really want to see that happen as well, but there's more going on that people need to be aware of.

NOTE: Screenshots of Discord posts have user IDs censored as this subreddit is very public, and thus prone to information being used negatively and out of context.

1. How 50501 Operates

50501 is a decentralized grassroots organization. The entire idea started with a Reddit post and picked up enormous traction within a timespan of two months, culminating with 50 states protesting on one combined day of action... and now we’re trying to do it again, and again, and again. In the United States, beyond George Floyd’s death leading to the BLM protests, that kind of mass mobilization just doesn't happen.

But you guys are already well aware of why things have accelerated that quickly.

50501 does not organize from the top down. From here on, I will refer to the group coordinating national days of protest simply as "National." They have minimal resources. They collaborate and communicate with everyone doing groundwork in different states, but they are not the ones responsible for making events happen near you. They simply get everyone on the same page.

So, the people who are responsible for ensuring a protest happens in a state - your state! - or local city are the people in those states/cities. If Topeka, Kansas, doesn't have anyone there who can pull permits and plan the event, a 50501 event doesn't happen there. If the only organizer in Topeka is sick, or worn out, or has a family funeral that weekend... can you guess the outcome?

2. The Local Impact

As an example, in my home state, California, there are effectively two distinct (generalized) groups of organizers trying to do work for the entire state. Those doing work in Southern California, and those doing work in the geographically superior ;) Northern California. Central California also has organizers now, but just like the middle child, they're going to be ignored in this write-up.

However, let's zoom further in:

The organizer who's currently doing most (if not all) of the work in San Jose (in Northern California) has been swamped with responsibility and a lack of volunteers since 2/17 (when I first got involved). If they hadn’t taken the mantle of effort on themselves, I don't know if San Jose would've had 50501 events on these last few major national protest days.

This isn't a unique story across the United States - in fact, I know it isn't. Here's an incredible post written by an organizer in Georgia. It outlines many of these same concerns from an organizer's perspective.

How about another local tidbit from Sacramento (our state capital)? Organizers have previously discussed that the average cost of renting out porta-potties for protest events in that city is about $1,000. That is $1,000 that Sacramento wouldn't have if it weren't donated, despite the frequency with which people ask if there will be porta-potties at an event.

People frequently joke that they wish they were being paid for protesting, but the financial reality of having nearby bathrooms (a necessity for some) is that unless people are able to contribute, those things can't happen. Sacramento's 50501 group is quickly running out of money. Blowing through $1,000 (at a minimum) every time you host a major event quickly drains your resources.

3. The Bottom Line

Things have accelerated so quickly that the same organizing groups managing the crowds of hundreds of people in different major cities are now accounting for tens of thousands in MANY major cities ACROSS THE U.S. That's both an incredible accomplishment and an immense burden for everyone on the ground.

I’m not speaking for 50501 officially. This is only my informed assumption, but I believe that 50501's National channels backtracked on the 19th being a "national day of protest" because multiple organizers are overwhelmed after months of continuous work on top of their existing lives.

"A month ago in GA, we had about 30 volunteers including about 6 marshals and 6 medics. That was pretty good for an event of 500 people. On 4/5, we had ~25 marshals and ~15 medics. For 20,000+ people. Our volunteer numbers were up 4x in a month, but our attendee numbers were up 40x. WE DESPERATELY NEED VOLUNTEERS!" - u/David50501GA

The reality is that in order to both attract and maintain the record-breaking numbers that people want to see, a lot of work needs to be done to support that mass amount of people.

  • People want there to be porta-potties... but don't know how to/don't want to donate to their state organizers to ensure that happens.

  • People want there to be protests on the weekends so that they don't have to skip work... but then others are upset that politicians aren't in office on the weekends when we DO have a big weekend march.

  • People want protests to be more frequent and longer... but they don't volunteer to help make that happen.

Seriously... if you weren't involved in the community a month or so ago, then you have no idea how frequent the requests for weekend protests were.

4. Where the Hell Are You Getting All of This Information?

Honestly? I’m just actively looking for where stuff is happening. I’m reading what the organizers are writing, and keeping up-to-date on things.

I decided to write this up after realizing that many people were joining 50501 and getting as far as the subreddit before getting lost or frustrated. Next-to-none of the actual organizing work, beyond awareness and free-form discussion, happens here on Reddit.

No, the real shit happens either on the Discord (which is much more public due to its format) or in Signal channels between organizers (it’s a messenger app, so including more than a few people in a group is impossible).

Do you want to know how the next date (4/19) was actually chosen? The link was posted in the Discord, publicly. Practically everyone who was in a 50501-related Discord channel or group saw it and could vote on it, and the overwhelming result was 4/19. More polls are going up for future dates as well. Feel like voting? I did!

Also, if you're understandably worried that Reddit has been compromised... as an alternative, try joining 50501's Lemmy instance. The format is very similar to Reddit, without the corporate/government-aligned bullshit Reddit is currently pulling.

5. We Need YOUR Help, and We Need It NOW

But even saying organizing is happening "on the Discord" is understating it. That implies that the main 50501 Discord server is the only one people use to organize. Couldn't be further from the truth. California, for instance, has (at least) two servers. There’s one for general 50501 work and communication, and another for organizers to more thoroughly plan and communicate without having a mess of different channels in one server alone.

Furthermore, 50501 NorCal hosts "town calls" in their public server, where they go over organizational efforts, bring in speakers to talk about concerns, propose ideas to implement, communicate directional ideas for those chapters... AND call for volunteers...

Hell, I only keep up with California on the state level. I wouldn't be surprised if other states were currently doing something similar to this. And even if they weren't, consider that you can help make that happen.

I'm summarizing, really. The point is that if YOU, yes, YOU are concerned about a lack of direction and “lack of effort,” then YOU need to get involved. More is happening than you are probably aware of, and they're more in need of help than you probably understand. These organizers are answering questions, talking with people, and collaborating with other organizations from their phones under their desks at work, okay? They are neck-deep in trying to keep events happening, and that burden can really only be alleviated if more people step up to help.

If you can’t make it to protest events for whatever reason? Get your ass in the Discord channels for your state. Signal, Lemmy, whatever. If there's something that you have the ability to do, do it. If you can't figure out Discord, learn it. Doesn't matter how many days you need if you get it eventually.

6. Hard Realities

I’ve seen users in this subreddit point out more than once that they don’t want to use Discord.

We’re at the point where saying that you won't use Discord because it’s hard to learn is a weak excuse. I understand that, more likely than not, it is a completely new app to you. Having a hard time learning it is, in of itself, no weakness. Instead, it’s a matter of merit that you are pushing through regardless. But treating it as a hard barrier for all but the very few is a problem.

Think about it this way: When people are getting black-bagged, will you be okay with saying, “Oh man, that app is just too hard to use… “

As our rights to due process and free speech are erased, will your excuses for not volunteering be a comfort?

Or do you want to know that you did everything you could if it meant making a difference?

VOLUNTEER. ORGANIZE. LEARN.

7. Getting Involved

GENERAL 50501 DISCORD: https://discord.com/invite/50501

50501 LEMMY INSTANCE: https://50501.chat/

(Special thanks to u/BlueHikingCat for editing and proofreading my first draft, you're amazing!)


Originally Posted By u/FireWolf3000 At 2025-04-12 10:03:46 PM | Source


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