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President Sheinbaum "used her Wednesday morning news conference to show a world map dating from 1607. The map labeled North America as Mexican America and already identified the Gulf of Mexico as such, 169 years before the United States was founded," The New York Times reports.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm trying to find her source map and I am not finding it. I am also finding other 1607 maps that contradict this. Note that I want this to be true because it pisses off Trump fans, but I'm not sure that this was exactly a common view of North America at the time.

Some 1607 examples:

https://turismo.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Map-of-Western-Hemisphere-from-1607-America-scaled.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2RKH966/old-17th-century-dutch-vintage-world-map-designation-of-the-christian-world-print-by-jodocus-hondius-1607-2RKH966.jpg

This one is by Mercator. It does seem to call the region New Spain, but that is not the same thing: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/539dffebe4b080549e5a5df5/1681406870328-59NYYF9DTFGLNTPCG2VX/1607-Antique-World-Map-Mercator-typus-orbis-museum-outlets.jpg?format=2500w

Sorry, this one you have to go to the website and it has annoying zoom features: https://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-vintage-map-of-the-world-1607-cartographyassociates.html

Note, I'm not saying the map is a fake or anything. I have no idea about its authenticity. But it does not seem to be the name the majority of cartographers were using.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Well, it seems that the territory in question later became what is known as the Mexican Cession of 1848.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Trump could not give less of a shit, Madame President. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

If MAGAts could understand such concepts, they'd be even madder because it was a Mexican woman who pointed out stupid they are.