Any socialist party in the Netherlands who aren't larping, reformist, or infighting?
this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2024
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I wasn't really a gotcha though... Just want to equate the Netherlands, my place of birth, with something else than the feeling of dread and misery.
Unfortunately, pretty much all of principled left parties have been systematically eradicated in the west at this point. We have a lot of people who mean well, but it's doing to take a lot of effort to start building serious parties.
I'm giving you a like not because I like what you say but because I appreciate your reply.
“The Socialist Party […] (was) founded in 1971 as the Communist Party of the Netherlands/Marxist–Leninist”
Wow based. Wait a minute…
“the party has since moderated itself from Marxism–Leninism and Maoism towards democratic socialism and social democracy.”
Ah yeah…..
Welcome to Europe. The party called the social democrats are liberals. The socialists are social democrats. And the party called the "Marxist-Leninist Revolutionary Communists" are the moderate socialists who get 3% of the vote and sometimes they endorse policies to ban all foreigners
I finally understand liberals now. This is what cultural marxism must be about.
I mean, the PCP (Portuguese Communist Party) is pretty decent… and… yeah…
I wonder if that moderation happened before or after Mohammed Al-Bukhaiti left
“In 1991, the SP officially scrapped the term Marxism–Leninism because the party had evolved to the point that the term was no longer considered appropriate.”
Also, the party has a “left conservative” wing that opposes worker migration… feels like a chud party masquerading as leftists.
Sounds a bit like the SLF in Lithuania (any lithuanian comrade here who can provide a better analysis of the SLF) From what I've read, the SLF seems like a patsoc/nazbol org
This is just the most UltraLeft party in the Nether''land''
Damn, RIP to the Dutch in the chat
The inevitable path of social democracy
Since it happened in 1991, it's definitely related to the fall of USSR.
SP sanctions when?
Jimmy Dijk is Hamas
Based!
A Dutch socialist. That's like being a death metal drummer in a boy band.
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I live in the Netherlands and the people who call themselves socialists here are invariably Trotskyists or Social Democrats. It has a reputation of being some kind of "leftist", "progressive" country but it's politics are neoliberal and people are hyper individualistic. I think the " Polder model" is a result of a mindset that's the result of being eternally under threat of flooding and the cooperation that needs to happen to prevent that. Otherwise it would be the Texas of Europe.
Wdym "the Texas of Europe"?
Neither have been great analogies to be fair. I meant to imply some kind of "rugged individualism", self orientation, insular, anti-social, me me me.
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