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10 arrested for writing gay erotica in China as part of nationwide crackdown
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this post was submitted on 05 Jan 2025
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Does anyone have a primary source? I'm compiling an anti tankie document and want to steel man it but can't find it in the article.
How do you do my fellow communists?
I'm an anarchocommunist, not a tankie.
I have never posted a pro-tankie opinion across all my accounts. Feel free to look!
Tankies boutta call every single person whos gay on this earth a capitalist pig...
Tankies don't ever show up in these threads because they know this is indefensible.
Nah, they're just over at the crosspost thread: https://lemmy.ml/post/24456592
Their main point is that, as the article states, erotica is outlawed whether it's gay or not. They weren't 'arrested for writing gay erotica', they were arrested for writing erotica. Obviously that's also a controversial position, but it's a very different one to the false homophobic position implied by the headline.
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most tanky positions are indefensible. and yet, they try to defend them anyways.
The extra sad thing is that China isn't even "tankie-socialist" anymore, much like how the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.
I don't understand how authocracies are so popular everywhere. What is wrong with the freaking world?
When liberalism fails, people look for alternatives. Historically speaking, the lower classes move towards socialism, and the owning classes adopt fascism to protect their privileged position from socialists. Apart from some important exceptions, libertarian forms of socialism generally haven't been able to prevail, while one-party states have built third-world countries into superpowers more than once, which makes for an appealing role-model, especially in countries where the system beforehand was a monarchist dictatorship or US puppet pretending to be a democracy.
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People are indoctrinated into being vulnerable to authoritarianism very early, it's a big part of the major religions. Now the vulnerability is being targeted with more and more serious exploits.
People are increasingly relatively poor within their own societies particularly compared to the wealthy and ultra wealthy increasingly visible on the internet.
Charismatic autocrats have done a good job falsly directing blame for this to socialists. It's maddening to behold people basically cheering for their own chains.
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What is with authoritarians being so afraid of gay people?
It really doesn’t have much to do with gay at all, but rather different than the norm which makes it an easy target to blame and punch down on. Hitler went after trans and gays first too, same with the fascists in power in the US today.
Quite literally a tale as old as time.
No, Hitler went after communists, socialists and trade unionists first. The whole reason the nazis were given power was to destroy the Left wing which had almost overthrown the bourgeois industrialists in the years after WW1. Ernst Rohm, a gay Nazi leader, was in charge of the night of the long knives when the Nazis cleared the ghettos of communists, socialists and Jews.
Homosexuals entered the crosshairs a year later when Hitler decided his good friend Ernst was a bit too close to power, which is why homosexuality became a crime to be purged over.
Accepting gay people requires an open mind. An open mind can undermine an authoritarian society
It's more than that. Denigration of homosexuality and transgender identity is inextricably linked with patriarchy. The means by which queer people are oppressed is tied very strongly to notions of gender hierarchy. They push biological gender essentialism and homosexuality as unnatural and dangerous specifically because it places heterosexual cisgender men in the highest social position possible. It allows them to benefit from the exploitation of women and queer people as much as possible. Queer people are less directly useful to them, and so they are generally very overtly violent and genocidal towards us. Trans people in particular are targeted as if one can change their gender, if gender is not innate, then it undermines the superiority of cisgender men over cisgender women. Men cannot biologically innately be superior if women could become men, in essence.
Also they arent producing fresh meat for the grinder.
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Is this an opportunity? Should I try writing chinese gay porn stories?
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If gay erotica is a threat to your way of thinking, then your way of thinking is pathetically fragile.
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50 years of culture.
The headline and the article itself are written in a bit of a weird way. From what i have read on that article and some others, 50+ were arrested, 10 of them at least had published gay erotica, but does not seem that they are targeting only people that write gay erotica. Not trying to excuse them or anything, its all pretty bad, but the headline seemed intentionally misleading once you start reading the article.
Lol the downvotes. 'No, don't undercut my propaganda. they must be doing it because homophobia!'
China just wants to keep its organ harvesting industry going. Each of those accused will walk out of prison in 5 years with one kidney.
I'm not sure what LGBTQ Nation is on about separating 10 people from 50, but the SCMP is pretty clear that dozens were arrested for publishing danmei. They do also mention that publishing erotic materials in general is prohibited, though.
I don't think it's being intentionally disingenuous. Changing the word "arrested" to "convicted" makes the headline entirely accurate to the article.
So... would this book be prohibited?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1005150.Chinese_Erotic_Poems
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Presumably part of China's new "Less Wankies, More Tankies" policy.