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For some reason posts on our instance have recently gotten more downvotes from outside instances than usual and many posts look like this:

I personally don't like the idea of disabling downvotes but if the feature is mostly going to be used by outside users because crypto is "le bad" we might as well turn it off.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

do not desactivate downvote.

Should i vote negatively on this post?, to indicate that i want you to continue active the negative votes? ๐Ÿค”

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No, please do not deactivate downvote functionality.

(I say this as someone who has received a lot of downvotes; they're useful feedback that I appreciate)

Also, monero.town is currently a recommended instance on awesome-lemmy-instances (at the time there's only 7 recommended instances, and monero.town is one). If this instance deactivates downvote functionality, it will no longer be recommended as downvote functionality is one of the requirements for recommendation.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Valid point with the instance list.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Just keep posting these images whenever you feel like it. It will have a chilling effect.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Leave them on. It will be a good indicator of sentiment change once the majority of people realize Monero is their friend and will start to upvote anything Monero related. ๐Ÿ˜‰

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Yeah we get down voted by the rest of the federation and downvotes are mostly meaningless. Is there a way to turn off remote votes, not federate votes? Good feedback from our community is good, spam manipulation from outside is just noise.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

is it possible to disable downvotes only for outside users?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Or maybe your communities suck and people don't like them?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Or maybe a single attack by a bigger instance with more users is enough to put us down and be stopped from actually reach more people, and we'll never know what people actually feel by being constantly attacked for being small.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you do not like something best thing to do is just go away. You do not see any of us lurking around lemmy and downvoting posts about the best new ways to lick govt. boots.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for phrasing it as a question. I can answer, but only for myself. I am a person and I like this community. I suspect others who have joined it do as well, by I'll let them chime in if so.

I do appreciate you leaving a comment rather than just downvoting.

Have a good one.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So how do you explain all the downvotes then? You assume people are just singling out communities? You think you're "right" and others are "wrong" and just don't get it? You're too smart whereas everyone else is dumb? C'mon...

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I don't need to explain others downvotes or dislike of something to enjoy or find something useful myself. I dont need to base my appreciation of things on others differing opinions because I'm an individual not part of some hivemind that has to conform to popular of fashionable opinion to validate my preferences.

What others do, they do for their own reasons, which I won't know unless they comment to explain them to me.

Aa to your question about what I think, I think that what I do for myself is "right", because I choose to do it and say so as the authority on myself.

I never said I was smarter or that anyone else was dumb, so what are you even on about here? You're having a conversation with yourself that has nothing to do with anything I wrote.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a good idea to disable them. I don't want to live in an echo chamber or silence critics. Facing criticism will strengthen worthwhile ideas.

And it would rob the actual users of the instance of the ability to downvote content we don't approve of legitimately.

But I do like that you've been making the voting and vote bombing transparent.

Is there a script or another way to make the voting parties visible to all users rather than just the admin? Or make it so a flood coming from external sources would be visible or filtered in some way?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Is there a script or another way to make the voting parties visible to all users rather than just the admin?

This is how it works on kbin, so it's definitely possible.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

99% still believe govt. lies. And then come here to play nanny?

We could just change the rules: downvote means thumbsup ... :) PLZ downvote, down, down, i'll appreciate it !1!!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

tricky question. Maybe we need to get more of the reddit people to come here so we just get more activity here and the amount of external downvotes doesn't way as much.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a bad idea when any community that shares ideas does it.

Porn? Fine, whatever. But people need to be able to show when an idea is dangerously wrong.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

We are a crypto bubble within a tankie bubble. I think it's fair to consider discarding tankie opinions, especially if they are so over-represented that they completely drown out people on their own home instance.