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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (16 children)

I feel like another level of lack of self awareness is going into the comments and finding that actually it's the patriarchies fault.

Like wow thanks its so helpful to know that this isn't my fault "a man" it's men's fault (you being a man remember).

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Fuck, i can't even cry when I need to.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I don't know if I want to blame the patriarchy or the toxic masculinity that goes with it, but crap. My ex was so not ok when I cried over the discovery of her affair.

She genuinely thought I was trying to manipulate her. I was "too extremely emotional" over it. We were highschool sweethearts, had a kid, and she always talked about how she was disgusted with her own mother for having an affair. Even to the point where she cut off contact with her mother until they ended that relationship.

"No man goes to bed crying because their wife cheated on them or sends nudes to the same guy 4 years later."

There were red flags earlier than that. "Why are you crying over a movie?" (I always do at emotional bits). "Man up, no one wants to be with someone expresses sadness."

What's worse is that it's pretty much why I don't bother going out, or have much motivation to get back into the dating game. The patriarchy and toxic masculinity has ruined being human to me. I don't want to be friends with people who cover up all their emotions. I don't want to be friends with guys who are clearly over compensating. Then the girls turn around complain about these men being cruel to them, yet state things like this.

Then you have all the men who have this strange belief that they are owed women, and by behaving like that they get the women they are owed. I won't take part in that. I will not hurt someone else just to satisfy my desires. If that means I don't date, I'm much more comfortable being a good person and alone.

I also try to bring it up in conversation, and then people turn around and act like my refusal to participate in patriarchal behavior is anti-social. I had one person point out "technically, you aren't getting any, even though you want it, making you an incel." I was so shocked. Its not the fault of women I'm not out getting laid. Its men. It's the patriarchy. It's this system set up to isolate me because I have an intense emotional awareness.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My friend, I am so sorry you went through that. I understand it is incredibly hard to get over a betrayal coupled with an attack like that, but I know you can do it. Let yourself breathe and take your time but when you're ready, there is a whole world of love out there for you.

There are so many people who will cherish the exact part of you that she took for granted. It is easy to go through something like that and come to the conclusion that you should stop feeling. I hope you don't.

As for people saying you're an incel... I literally have no advice other than no longer talking to them. There are people in marriages who are "involuntarily celibate". This could become a rant about the awful nature of even the term "incel" but I think that would be a waste.

I hope you continue to show your strength by refusing to hide your vulnerability.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 days ago (4 children)

you know her better obviously but sometimes you're too close to see some things so here goes my opinion: I think she didn't genuinely think you were trying to manipulate her.

I think she knew it was the appropriate response and she was the bad person so instead of facing that situation and losing the upper hand she thought she could use toxic masculinity to manipulate you to feel bad about yourself as a way to take the heat off of herself.

"you're overreacting", "you're being too emotional" these are very common tactics that men use on women all the time. it's just that it has the added toxic masculinity aspect when the roles are reversed.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm glad your ex is an ex. I believe it's experiences like yours that highlights how sexism goes both ways. My heart goes out to you.

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[–] [email protected] 188 points 5 days ago (4 children)

A few years ago I was struggling with body image and was starting to feel worthless and invisible in my marriage. When I tried expressing these feelings to my wife (really just trying to make an emotional connection) her response was curt and to the point: "You don't have body image issues. I'm the one struggling with my weight."

And that was it. I've never felt more alone in my life.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Hey you, you're attractive. *Hugs

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

His hugs can be attractive I guess.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Awwww you should’ve left the comment alone.

I love you!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

Thx. You legit got a smile out of me.

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