Some friends I just can’t shake
hard enough
around the neck
with a firm grip
I have friends
OK you don't have to brag.
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I have [a] conservative family.
To be conservative in 2024, you have to dismiss that some people in our community are miserable and every day we leave them to their fate is heinous.
In the US, a failure to vote [against] any given Republican (by voting [for] an opposing democrat) is another step towards autocracy and genocide. Every Republican in office is a force towards the Heritage Foundation's 2025 project, by which they will unmake the meager democratic features and civil rights that remain in the US.
Conservatives believe, by the natural extrapolation of their positions and behavior, I have no right to exist. (Curiously, this includes my own father, who simultaneously facilitates political efforts seeking out my extinction while expressing a dissonant interest in my well-being. He doesn't dare connect the two in his mind.)
I'm so terribly sorry.
You both deserve to exist and most likely rock out loud :)
A conservative you are guilted into seeing occasionally? We call that family
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The paradox of tolerance says if we tolerate intolerance, then intolerance will dominate. Or something.
The social contract solution is pretty solid. If you are intolerant of other people first, you lose protection of the contract and others will be intolerant of you without penalty.
The problem on Lemmy is that this gets combined with overgeneralized binary thinking, and all loosely "conservative" people get strawmanned as the intolerant outgroup, which, when this happens, actually does make you the guilty party.
Then maybe it's time to start considering if conservative values have a place in our world? What does being conservative entail other than limiting the freedoms of other humans and refusing to spend money on anything but the military? Please give me a legitimate reason why we need to resist progress?
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I’ve heard tolerance is more of a social contract
If I go hey black guy I’ll tolerate you if you tolerate me We agree Hey gay person I’ll tolerate your differences if you tolerate my differences Hey nazi-
He doesn’t tolerate us so he is not protected by the social contract and then we don’t have to tolerate Mr Nazi
You don't choose sexual orientation, race, nationality, body you're born into.
It's ok not tolerating intolerant people.
Fuck building bridges. Everybody start digging a graveyard for the things that need to die.
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You've become the intolerant. I can't tolerate that. Repeat.
You've become the intolerant. You can't tolerate that.
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The primary difference is, I can throw a party, I can have my trans friends gay friends Muslim friends black friends, and Latino friends All in the same room. Then I can leave the room to go take care of something and not have to worry that any one person in the room is going to say "you people".
To be very honest I do have some somewhat conservative friends, They mostly worry that legislation will even the playing field and all their lifelong hard work will be for nothing. Which is still a pretty shitty outlook but I can understand it. They spent 10 years of their life putting our kids through college and all of a sudden colleges free.
That's my stance too. If I put a group of people in a room, ideally everyone works together.
Thats not a thing with conservatives. They'll be starting fights with everyone and then blame that they're oppressed.
"I had to suffer, so everyone else should too." is NOT a valid reason to push back against progress.
Yep. Falls into the "Fuck you I got mine" category.
Every time I hear that I'm like, "So YOU made your car, home, smart phone, EVERYTHING, yourself? Without the help of any other human being? Congratulations on being so self-sufficient, clearly you don't need money, or to see a doctor, or to hire a specialist for anything, you can do it all!"
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I don't have Muslim friends who preach for all out jihad and the destruction of American democracy.
I don't have conservative friends who preach for all out insurrection and the destruction of American democracy.
Some choices aren't difficult.
I wouldn't say "preach" but I do have conservative friends that openly tell me that being gay or trans is wrong. (I'm trans, and they know this). I'd love it if they kept that shit in the privacy of their own homes
Or maybe realize that the human race is on a collision course with a hot, chaotic destiny in the form of climate change coupled with economic collapse. Maybe it's time to solidify our networks instead of silently praying the 'other' changes or dies?
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America has democracy??
Not only does it have democracy, it also has socialism! You just have to be ultra rich or a mega corporation.
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Officially.
Allegedly
It's a Republic because the wealthy knew the people would get it wrong and they needed representative government rather than democracy
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Somebody that's actively trying to end my existence isn't a friend.
Aw come on... they're not trying to end your existence. They just don't want to be alive or exist.
Okay wait actually some DO want to end your existence directly. But most wished if you just died.
Most of them would be fine if you just denied everything about yourself that didn't conform and pretended to be just like them.
Editors note: This only applies if you’re a white man. Other demographics are not allowed to conform.
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I love that they excuse their vote as anything else.
I just want a tax cut. (and don't care about the republic or my friends' lives)
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I'd be fine with them if they weren't constantly shoving it in our faces. Think about the children!
And then they put that stuff in classrooms! How disgusting
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