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Suck it micro USB, mini USB, and lightning! πŸͺ«πŸ”‹

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Can we bring back the charging as well, and not just the USB cable... Oh, and while you're at it, screws instead of glue, to replace batteries would be awesome.

Thx!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

While this is good news, the likes of Apple will still find ways to be "compliant" while still being total assholes about it. e.g. the device might charge with USB C but they'll gimp the data transfer rates on non-pro phones. And they'll do the same when mandates about repairability come in - all of a sudden the battery will have a bunch of expensive DRM'd up the ass circuitry attached to it that will cripple the phone if its not recognized or registered by one of their techs and means Apple can kill old phones by being "out of stock" of the battery.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

e.g. the device might charge with USB C but they’ll gimp the data transfer rates on non-pro phones.

Just so you know, there are others who have slow speed on USB Type-C already. My mother's Galaxy A52 has a USB Type-C port that has only USB 2.0 support for data transfer, but with USB PD 3.0 PPS charging up to 25 W.

To me it's legitimate to use USB Type-C for better power delivery even if the chipset runs only at USB 2.0 speeds for data transfer. But hobbling a fast chipset just for product segmentation would be shitty. It is something I could see Apple doing though.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Honestly, people who still buy apple phones are dumb fucks. No way to say this nicely.

There's a weird discrepancy where Mac Laptops are decent machines despite being on the expensive side, but iphones are just overpriced hot garbage locking you into an ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Then the Apple Max which are decent machines for a while and then need an upgrade (which cannot be done because Apple) necessitating an entire new device.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Funny how recently as this was unfolding, USBC chargers for certain devices only work for those devices. So yes now we will only have USBC but ones that will only work with the assigned brands

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Main reason I left OnePlus is because i couldn't use any PD chargers. Highly impractical.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The benefit is that by being standardized, there will be less proprietary cords and adapters. And the capability of USB-C should be adequate for sometime with the power and data transfer.

One issue, is that not all USBC cords are of the same quality. I found this recently when trying to find a cord that can be used for an external SSD, and video for a monitor. Some cords worked, the rest did not. All the cords could be used for charging, but after that, all bets are off.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

USB C cables have been all over the shop since the beginning, and chargers. I remember even 5 years back the problems they had. Part of that is the cables and chargers are "active" in the sense they negotiate charge rates and other functionality between either end and if one end is dumb or doesn't respond properly you get the 5V 2A default. On the other hand if you have a USB C 4.0 lightning cable and two compliant devices then potentially you could be powering 2 monitors, keyboard, mouse, wifi, a graphics card even AND charging through one cable. It's actually incredible when it works properly.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

The problem is that USB-C is a plug not a standard even in charging some cables won't do as much power as others (though at least they communicate that to the power source).

I do however fully support the total USB-C rollout. In my everyday carry there's now only one plug (2 USB-C one USB-A) and some cables that I can charge everything with, my laptop, my phone my Powerbank and even those few devices that are still USB-B micro (I just carry one USB-A to micro cable).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Don't celebrate until the next version of USB comes out. Will this force everyone to adopt the newest version always or cling to the oldest?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why are you bringing this up like it hasn't been discussed thousands of times? Like it hasn't been stated (and cleared) in this very post?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

As long as it uses the physical type c port it's all good. Not that I care. USB got faster and faster and I use it less and less over the years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We transitioned from USB Micro B to USB-C.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

that was before this law, so quite irrelevant to the question.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It's very unlikely that the C-type port is changing anytime soon. Most devices will stay on whatever underlying USB version that the manufacturer deems adequate for that device.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

will ti 84 calculators have to follow this?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Starting today, all new mobile phones, tablets, digital cameras, headphones, speakers, keyboards and many other electronics sold in the EU will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C charging port," the EU Parliament wrote on social media X.

seems like probably yes!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I haven't read the legislation, but I get the thrust of it. They want to standardize cellular devices and also cut down on electronic waste. If it's specifically for cellular devices, then no it won't affect TI products. If it's more generally to cut back on electronic waste, then yes it will affect them.

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