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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean the concept is not difficult to grasp. They are comparing one horrific thing to a group of thirty thousand horrific things and choosing the lesser evil. They are not "okay" with ten-year olds being raped... Claiming so is a reading comprehension error.

The issue here is that we don't agree with them that those 30k other "horrific" events are all that horrific.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

What that person meant was basically the difference between left and right or pro and anti abortion:

There right wants to ban abortion for everyone in fear of even 1 abortion that would have been a perfectly fine baby. (Which they would perceive as murder)

The left wants to allow abortions for everyone in fear of even one forced birth leading to a death. A death that was preventable by a abortion.

The right of a baby to live DOES NOT "TRUMP" THE RIGHT OF THE WOMAN TO CHOOSE. End of debate.

They are incredibly different perspectives.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I want to see this guy explain that to the 10 year old.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

And to his mistress getting an abortion abroad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want him to BE that 10 year old girl

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Hasn't she suffered enough?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And it really would be so easy for them to AT LEAST argue from the perspective of "Allow abortion for 10 year olds"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

There are people out there that would be ok with doing this. I’ve met them and I never want to see them again.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

This is one of those topics that people like to force their views on others and not care about the consequences. Another good example is porn. "I don't think people should watch porn" is something people actually vote for. Yet all the studies performed show sexual assaults and rapes increase everywhere you ban porn. So forcing their views on people has real consequences and they just don't want to acknowledge them.

A vote to ban porn is a vote to increase rapes and sexual assaults. Yes that includes more children being raped as well.

A vote to ban abortions doesn't stop abortions, all it does is increase the number of mother's and babies dying from unsterilized attempts at aborting, children being thrown in dumpsters, buried alive, left outside, dropped at fire departments, put into underfunded orphan systems that have more kids than they can get adopted BEFORE you took away their safer way of not abusing a child.

The only thing these votes do is take away people's choice, and hurt people.

A vote to ban abortion or porn is a vote to hurt people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With the porn issue, as well as prostitution, you have the unfortunate conflation of two different positions: "I don't want bad things to happen to women", and "I want everyone to follow my moral code".

It's an unfortunate reality that increases in demand for industries that can leverage human trafficking leads to an increase in human trafficking. It's not irrational for someone to be concerned with that.
For those people, discussion about how legalization has aggregate benefits, or how the legalization enables regulations that permit the outcomes to be better even though it's more common.

With the latter group you really can't argue effectively because their position wasn't arrived at out of concern for outcomes. Sexual assault being bad doesn't make something else not bad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You can have decreased rapes, sexual assaults and sex trafficking. Sex trafficking isn't directly correlated with sex work as many have tried to make it out to be. Better to decriminalize and regulate something than to ban it entirely and force it into "back alley" transactions where there is no protections.

If a sex worker says no to something and someone does it anyways, they cant go to the police and say they were raped.. because they were involved in a criminal act and would be arrested. Decriminalization allows protections that aren't vigilante justice to be formed. It isn't a friend of theirs kicking someone's ass or breaking their legs/killing them.

Who raped you? Well here's his name and credit card information so you can track him down.

The number of people dying from alcohol poisoning is down drastically since we decriminalized and regulated it. It didn't increase the number of people making moonshine, it decreased it.

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