I don't think there's really anyone who'd argue against that and actually mean it.
You could install a mobile GNU/Linux Custom Rom on your Android phone.
Assuming you have one that's supported ofc.
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Everyone saying Android is completely missing the point. I mean yeah, it runs the linux kernel, but i feel like most of yall wouldn't call ChromeOS linux on the other hand.
The obvious connotations are privacy, choice, wayland/x11 support, a useful terminal, a rich foss ecosystem, and arch btw.
ChromeOS is Linux and even starting to become it's own full blown distro.
ChromeOS even uses Wayland now.
Lacros
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I'm sure PinePhone is better than the Openmoko distro was back in the day.
I used my Openmoko for a few months and happily sold it to a friend after explaining the state of the OS.
Wait till bro finds out what android is
I tried to daily drive a PinePhone for a long time, then a PinePhone Pro. It is not really ready. Too many dropped/failed to answer calls and missed texts. I love having a fully capable Linux PC in my pocket and am typing this on my OnePlus 6T with postmarketOS, but as a phone it is not ideal. My setup now is that I have a OnePlus 6 with stock Android and my main SIM for doing phone stuff (calls, texts, some apps, Bluetooth handsfree) and the OnePlus 6T with pmOS for Linux experimentation and doing pocket computer things (browsing, coding, SSH, VPN, testing Waydroid). I got a second cheap SIM so I can have service on both devices, but as the 6T with pmOS can't receive calls in 4G mode it really doesn't work as a phone. The PinePhones can work as a phone but the modem dropouts make it less than ideal and their battery life and performance leave much to be desired while the OP6T has fairly good performance and battery life on pmOS.
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...are we ignoring android?
Yes. When people talk about a Linux phone, they mean a Linux like experience where the user is in charge and there is no data harvesting or other shitfuckery. That's not something any Android phone delivers out of the box.
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Yup
Honestly F-droid has shown that Android has a lot of potential
My Nokia N900 ran Linux back in the day, and was a more polished experience than the iPhone it was then contemporary with. Too bad that particular line went precisely nowhere.
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For those who have used each, which did you prefer, GrapheneOS or a Linux-based phone, and why?
I have a "braveheart" pinephone (one of the first ones) and I just use it to play around with it's features, do distrohopping etc.)
Most of the time i used an arch build with phosh. But actually I highly recommend postmarketOS, the installer is straight forward and let you build whatever you want. Actually I run postmarketOS edge with encrypted f2fs and gnome-mobile on it. gnome-mobile works better on newer phones but it is still usable.
I prefer my grapheneOS phone because it is faster has more apps, apps are scaled correctly etc. Not too much battery drain...
PS. I managed to run Thunderbird usable on pinephone, I just play around with the look&feel and now I simply have just the mail cards and I am able to interact with it without too much scaling issues.
Thanks! I'll probably go with a grapheneOS build next, I prefer battery life over most things for my use case. Thanks for the info!
I think Linux phones needs more time. My dream would be a phone I can plug into a docking station and work on where I stopped. Most platforms gave this dream up. But Linux is on it's way to do it. It's actually possible, thx to gtk4, libadwaita etc.
That's exciting! Probably not my use-case, but certainly a functional role!
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Okay look I get what we're trying to say here but would it be problematic if I pointed out that Android is also running Linux?
It’s a valid point, but unfortunately your non bullshit options are limited to replacing the OS with something like Graphene or Lineage.
The powers that be REALLY want your data.
I thought you could just use the Android open source project? I thought the tracking was mostly baked into Google's flavor of Android not the open source product
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And lo, the Apocrypha were born, for they spoke the truth that no man dare admitt, lest they be marked an apostate.
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I hope its stable enough when i stop using my current phone
Well it is stable, but it lacks most of today's I would call it "comfort-usability" but the main features are definitely working.
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Shiftphone?
I have a PinePhone. ama
what carrier are you using it on? sim or e-sim? Do you use it daily?
I used mine on T-Mobile almost daily. It worked okay. Think of early Android days where everyone had their own custom rom and none of them were as smooth as you felt they should be.
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How much did it cost, how long have you had it and what are the most obvious pros and cons?
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What do you miss the most?
Getting laid
I'm using Android and am iPhone for business and it's basically the same. Maybe it's os independent?
Phosh, gnome-mobile, plasma, sxmo or "unity"?
Plasma and unity both seem to be the ones I come back to. The other three I would mess with, but something about the other two always brought me back.
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I wish Valve would make a Steam Phone. They seem to know how to do Linux devices.
Hell, I think even Raspberry Pi Foundation getting into the phone market would be a game changer too.
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Valve laptop to revive the thinkpad glory days
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