[X] doubt
(I say that as a PinePhone owner)
this post was submitted on 22 Feb 2024
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Linux phones will need to run established Android apps to get users, devs won't move where there is no users, users won't move there if there aren't apps. It's almost cyclical
Right now we're working with people who are exceptions to this, users who want to experiment and devs who don't care about money.
Waydroid runs decently on the pinephone. On a phone with better specs, it might be downright usable for proprietary apps.
Potentially a proton-style layer could really ease transition, like on the steamdeck
What if the app also want's a locked bootloader, Play Integrity, and whatever else. Like a banking app or Google Pay?
Thats a fair point, i never tried banking on waydroid. Most of the stuff i would need on the go seemed fine though.
Although, as far as tap to pay goes, i could see that getting baked into linux properly. I dont believe apple pay and google pay tap pay are using a different protocol. I may very well be wrong though.
It's not about the protocols. It's about business. We can have all the tech we want but until someone is willing to establish relationships with and pay the 3-4 middlemen involved in every single card payment it ain't happening.
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Hey linux friends, what are you doing on your phones that a pinephone doesn't cut it? If I have a DSLR and don't give a shit about mobile social media, is there an issue?
I'd say the big issue is how much extra effort things take to do. You are relying a lot on web pages instead of applications and a lot of them don't feel really well optimized. Actions that would normally take a minute might take four minutes.
There's some issues with native apps too. When I was using my PinePhone I don't think I was able to get music to play in the background for example. I imagine this has been fixed by now but it was still frustrating.
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Leaving my house for over an hour
I run a pinephone daily during the first 5 or 6 months of covid but once I started going out again well... really poor camera and battery
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GNU/Linux phones may not be, but Android/Linux is quite usable. Jesus should know the difference.
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pear phones > everything
buy an iPhone
-Jobs 4:20
I just can't get over the walled garden and shit notifications. Like, fuck Google but why can't I own my device.
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"Android is already a Linux phone" They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
But it isn't GNU/Linux https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html
... or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux
Yes, but it is Linux. OP doesn't mention GNU.
That's like saying you run FreeBSD because you have a PlayStation 5 though.
It's so far removed people associate it as something different entirely.
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Not reliable as a daily driver but very cool
Hear me out: THEY ARE VIABLE TO ME
If your needs are very simple, and you’re willing to go without a lot of luxuries, then yeah, it could work for you.
I don't know, but I was thinking PinePhone would be more useful when your needs rather aren't simple.
Yeah, I guess specific would be a better word. Like if having a good terminal emulator and SSH client is more important to you than having access to Android apps.
Thats pretty much my use case. I run a legacy iphone (i know) and terminal apps arent great so far. I often need to work on the go and carrying a laptop everywhere is tedious. Having a phone with a „simple“ linux OS and terminal emulator would be awesome.
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