intelligence != "thinking"
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The term AI has been around longer than LLMs, and refers to a wide variety of different algorithms and approaches to automatically extracting and working with information.
LLMs are an AI technique, just like Bayesian networks for causal inference are an AI technique.
The issue isn't that we don't have "real" AI, it's that most people are misusing a general technical term, and then being indignant that it doesn't exactly match a very specific sub category (AGI, or artificial general intelligence)
You see the same thing with people calling cryptocurrency "crypto", even though that word is typically used among experts to refer to "cryptography", which is mostly not relevant to currency in the slightest.
This one's not on the tech people, it's on the people who keep missusing the words.
Yeah real AI doesnt exist and we are not even close. But marketing is powerful. We should be saying language models.
We do have A.I. The Turing test is there for a reason. We just don't have what movies told us A.I. would be like. Corporations don't need an A.I. that can think for itself to replace you. In fact, that's one of the reasons to replace you.
Yeah, because having a chatbot that agrees to sell a car for $1 or writes a poem for customers trashing the company it represents is so much better than having something that can think for itself...
It did what it was asked to do. That's a pretty good employee to have behind the scenes. As for customer facing roles like car salesman, we'll have people for a while until they figure out how to make it less agreeable in certain circumstances. But it'll only need to be one person verifying the work of 50+ car sales a day. Much more efficient than an all human team.
I'll be direct, your texts reads like you only just discovered AI. We have much more than "only LLMs", regardless of whether or not these other models pass turing tests. If you feel disgruntled, then imagine what people who've been researching AI since the 70s feel like...
The term “Fuzzy logic” has apparently been around since 1965, can’t keep calling it that.. not that all AI falls under that but a lot of what gets marketed as that would.
Title: Unpopular Opinion: The Term "AI" is Just a Marketing Buzzword!
Hey fellow Redditors, let's talk about the elephant in the room: AI. 🤖💬
I can't be the only one feeling a bit agitated by how the term "Artificial Intelligence" gets thrown around, right? Real AI seems like a distant dream, and what we have right now are these Large Language Models (LLMs). They're good at passing Turing tests, but let's be real – they're not thinking on their own.
Am I the only one who thinks "AI" is just a fancy label created by those rich, capitalistic individuals already knee-deep in LLM stocks? It feels like a slick way to boost investments and make us believe these machines are more intelligent than they really are. Thoughts? 🔍🧠💭
I started reading it as "Al" as in the nickname for Allen.
Makes the constant stream of headlines a bit more entertaining, imagining all of the stuff that this guy Al is up to.
I remember being upset about the exact same thing when 4G first launched.
Hey me too. I gave up though.
Maybe just accept it as shorthand for what it really means.
Some examples:
We say Kleenex instead of facial tissue, Band-Aid instead of bandage, I say that Siri butchered my "ducking" text again when I know autocorrect is technically separate.
We also say, "hang up on someone" when there is no such thing anymore
Hell, we say "cloud" when we really mean "someone's server farm"
Don't get me started on "software as a service" too ...a bullshit fancy name for a subscription website that actually has some utility.
Every website now is just HTMLaaS
Depends on how you define it. A thermostat or PID controller is artificial, and intelligent enough to hold a comfortable temperature.
I'm more infuriated by people like you who seem to think that the term AI means a conscious/sentient device. Artificial intelligence is a field of computer science dating back to the very beginnings of the discipline. LLMs are AI, Chess engines are AI, video game enemies are AI. What you're describing is AGI or artificial general intelligence. A program that can exceed its training and improve itself without oversight. That doesn't exist yet. AI definitely does.
Right, as someone in the field I do try to remind people of this. AI isn't defined as this sentient general intelligence (frankly its definition is super vague), even if that's what people colloquially think of when they hear the term. The popular definition of AI is much closer to AGI, as you mentioned.
I'm even more infuriated that AI as a term is being thrown into every single product or service released in the past few months as a marketing buzzword. It's so overused that formerly fun conversations about chess engines and video game enemy behavior have been put on the same pedestal as CyberDook™, the toilet that "uses AI" (just send pics of your ass to an insecure server in Indiana).
I totally agree with that, it has recently become a marketing buzzword. It really does drag down the more interesting recent discoveries in the field.
I call it AI-washing. And, yes, it's annoying.
As a farmer, my kneejerk interpretation is "artificial insemination" and I get confused for a second every time.
Mostly because every time I see the abbreviation I think it’s Al and not AI. And I briefly wonder if they mean Al Jolson or Al Capone.
Or my favorite, Weird Al
You are not. The word predictor hype is real
The term is so over used at this point I could probably start referring to any script I write that has condition statements in it and convince my boss I have created our own “AI”.
For real. Like some enemies in Killzone 2 “act” pretty clever, but aren’t using anything close to LLM, let alone “AI,” but I bet you if you implemented their identical behavior into a modern 2024 game and marketed it as the enemies having “AI” everyone would believe you in a heartbeat.
It’s just too overencompasing. Saying “large language model technology” may not be as eye catching, but it means I know if you at least used the technology. Anyone can market as “AI” and it could be an excel formula for all I know.
The enemies in killzone do use AI... the Goombas in the first Super Mario bros. used AI. This term has been used to refer to npc behavior since the dawn of videogames.
I know. That’s not my point. I know that technically, “AI” could mean anything that gives the illusion of intelligence artificially. My use of the term was more of the OP, that of a machine achieving sapience, not just the illusion of one. It’s just down to definitions. I just prefer to use the term in a different way, and wish it was, but I accept that the world does not
This is not a very good poem.
Maybe it was translated from another language?
It doesn't rhyme, And the content is not really interesting, Maybe it's just a rant, But with a weird writing format.
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