“Facts over feelings” - Grok
That last line must really burn.
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This flood was devastating to the area. It is also quite shocking to look up at the aftermath and see dead animals in the canopies of trees. My family owns a ranch that was fortunately far south enough to only be indirectly affected by the flood. We worked all weekend to clear debris from fences and swing gates and, thankfully, did not see any corpses in the water.
Death toll update:
More than 100 people people have died after devastating floods hit central Texas. Camp Mystic, an all-girls summer camp that sits along the Guadalupe River, has confirmed that 27 campers and counselors died in weekend floods. Ten campers and one counselor are still unaccounted for.
And those at Camp Mystic did their very best to save the girls, even at the cost of their own lives:
Camp Mystic owner Dick Eastland died while trying to rescue campers during the catastrophic flooding in Kerr County, Texas, as shared by his grandson in an Instagram tribute on Saturday.
“If he wasn’t going to die of natural causes, this was the only other way—saving the girls that he so loved and cared for,” George Eastland wrote. “That’s the kind of man my grandfather was. He was a husband, father, grandfather, and a mentor to thousands of young women. Although he no longer walks this earth, his impact will never fade in the lives he touched.”
A Camp Mystic employee, Glenn Juenke, told CNN Eastland died “remaining a true hero until the very end.”
“Eastland tragically lost his life while courageously attempting to save several young children,” Juenke said.
Source that this is a major source of upset for anybody? All I've heard is that it has made progressives feel slightly better.
I'm starting to get Mechanical Turk vibes from some of the Grok answers I've seen.
But by who? Musk has said he's trying to fix the way it responds. If he was just paying people to be Grok it would take some huge balls to dissent like that. He would immediately know who it was.
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Can someone find me a source on this. Most of the articles I have read say NWS pushed out a flash flood alert 3 hours in advance but the camp itself didn't have any alerting system in place. So if they had cell reception and turned on the emergency alert then they would've been warned.
I'm sure cuts to the NOAA and NWS can't be beneficial for anyone though
The money that was cut was to install warning system in remote places and expand cellular access to deliver the warnings, I read a whole article on it I will try to find, but it very clearly explained what was planned, what was cut, and how it's a direct impact on this. Could google the proposed funding that was cut as well and take a look for yourself. It happened all over in many communities, this just happened to be the first to test the cuts and how they keep us safe.
Hey, atleast the billionaires are only paying 1% tax rate while some of us pay 23%.
Nope, the warning system wasn't installed because the citizens of the community thought it was too expensive
During a news conference early Friday morning, Kerr County Judge Rob Kelly said he didn't know why the camps hadn't been evacuated, but that the county did not have an early warning system or outdoor sirens to alert people to flooding conditions.
“We’ve looked into it before … The public reeled at the cost,” Kelly said.
That refers to the audible sirens. Sirens are outdated technology. The emergency alert system has relied primarily on cell phones for over a decade now.
The relevant criticism in the article is not the lack of sirens, but this:
NWS alerts triggered Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEAs) on enabled mobile devices, but many summer camps do not allow campers to bring mobile devices to camp.
These no-devices policies dont make sense in a world where emergency alerts are delivered via mobile devices.
The staff (or at least the staff leadership) should / could have had cell phones. Whether there was cell coverage is another story.
I'm the emergency manager at my employer, who operates a summer camp (not in Texas, thank fuck). We don't want our clients bringing devices because of the distraction from programming and potential for Bad Things(tm) to happen. We don't want our direct care staff carrying their phones because we want their focus and attention on the clients. We also have a well-developed communications, hazard notification, and emergency plan, however.
Yeah if the camp had radios, the guy with weather information could give a holler to the people in danger, that could work
Yeah nah that's stupid
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Maybe they were asleep. Maybe none of them were locals so they didn't think that they would get flooded.
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Elon musk trying to design the system prompt for grok: https://youtu.be/lM0teS7PFMo
That started out a little slow but got there quick. Great skit.