Trump says lots of things.
Who knows which he will actually try to do?
Or how many of those things he will actually succeed at?
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Exactly "Trump vow" = "hot air"
The fun is in trying to figure out how this will be profitable for him.
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Some people want DST all year and others want Standard, because depending on where in the country you live--the latitude you are at, and whether you live at the east or west edge of your time zone makes a big difference in your experience of them.
One solution is to adjust the time zone boundaries to make the timing work out better for different locations: making the lines a bit more diagonal will help, and/or add another zone so each zone is narrower and there's not as much difference in sunrise/sunset times from one edge to the other.
Another idea is, don't choose between DST and Standard, choose halfway between them: at the next time change, change it by only 1/2 hour instead of a full hour, and leave it there. This may sound strange but there are other countries whose times are offset by 1/2 hour from the others, so it's not that unusual. So you're halfway between DST and Standard all year round, so it's not a big difference and is a good compromise.
Of course it's always too dark in winter, but combine both of the above mitigations and you minimize any problems from leaving clocks the same all year, no matter what part of the country you live in.
A few states can move a time zone, but northern states really benefit from the change. Daylight varies a ton seasonally in the north compared to south, Panama City has about 10-14 hours, but Seattle has about 8.5-16 hours
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Fingers crossed that this gives us an extra hour of sunshine after work instead of before. It's so depressing to leave the office at 4pm and it's already dark out.
No.
You make be spring forward and I'm owed my motherfucking fall back. I'll take up arms to defend that stance.
Fall back is nice but we should just change the time whimsically instead.
What if instead of one hour in the fall you randomly got 8?
You could technically get 582 hours of overtime in one shift in some states depending on the change.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but permanent daylight time is bad for public health.
Eliminating vaccines is also bad for public health. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking this is a component of the decision.
That said, I'm also sus of that position. There are plenty of healthy societies that live much further north of the us population centers.
One link to a research article from 1974 about fuel usage. One link to an article about the change between time offset being a problem. No substantiation for other claims. This article is practically an editorial.
He'll probably fuck it up by pushing for year-round DST (where the sun wouldn't rise until after 8 AM in the winter).
Uhh this is what I want. Id rather have sunlight after work than before
You’d rather have your evenings be useless? If anything we should move the clock an hour back in summer.
Cool, its objectively worse for people and society in general though.
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Good.
The extra hour of sunshine cannot be good for global temperatures.
I'm assuming you're joking, but I'm also assuming some morons actually believe this.
Every hour of sunlight brings 173,000 terrawatt hours of total solar irradiance. Even one hour is enough to make a big difference.
Those clocks are mighty powerful.
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I support standard time more, the 12 o clock at the center of the timezone should be noon, not having noon at 1PM, and day lengths are better on average without. DST makes it better, but only for sunset times, it makes the mornings drastically worse and I think employers and schools should just change their hours if they care so much about sunlight when they leave.
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I'm fine with that, but I think we should settle on Daylight Savings time. You know, when time is an hour ahead of what it is now.
Standard time is the WORST. My political party might be permanent Daylight Savings Time
If we had year-round DST, the sun wouldn't rise until after 8 AM in the winter.
And yet the happiest countries in the world spend most of the day in winter in darkness, some completely.
Though to be fair most of that has to do with how the governments tend to be more socialist.
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I wake up at 6:45-7 most days and it's not like it's bright then either. I would MUCH prefer an hour more of daylight after I get off work
That's totally fine.
I ink it really depends, to be honest.
I know I get a bit grim with winter reducing activities. What is impossible to tease out is just how much of this is weather changing with time zone.
I ink what matters most is the population centres and how they're affected - my thinking is if most of the population is grouped in places that benefit from being 'more livable' because they're not as dark and damp through ones daily experiences, then it'd be worth keeping.
I live in NZ and think itd be great here, but we're quite far from the equator, so get a lot of dawn and dusk (I feel like it would have a big affect here, and in my perspective, it would be broadly positive for _most folks _). It's shocking how much of an improvement DST makes in just the basic liveability - by the weather has generally been subtly improving for a few weeks as well, which completely waters down my argument
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At least it wouldn't set before I leave work !
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