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It is clear that the signal to noise ratio of the WWW is getting worse. It's much harder to find good content when using a good old search engine. And if it's good it is usually hosted on Reddit or Stackexchange.

So remember, even if it's easy too Google something (well, it isn't nowadays), we want to create a fediverse of good content that helps people (I hope). So, it's always better to write a real answer if you have the time and energy. Please help boost the SNR and reverse the AI fueled information degradation loop.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (24 children)

“Check the documentation” should absolutely be a retort though.

One of my least favorite things about the fediverse (and especially Discord and Reddit) is members asking the same simple question hundreds of times because they didn’t bother to do a simple search and didn’t bother to check obvious documentation.

They didn’t know the documentation exists? OK, I will happily show you, and show you how to find it in general. Question only partially novel? Great, I will link an old answer and explain the rest… But I am kinda fed up with how “ephemeral” social media is, which is by design, as that repetitiveness increases engagement dramatically. Many forums should be structured more like a wiki, and its users should reflect that.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s too bad ChatGPT will never replace a real Reddit thread:

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Yes please don't do this. Google doesn't need more support either from search activity or inclusion into the vernacular. If someone is asking in the fediverse which is still a relatively small community, they are expressing a degree of patience with their answer that suggests they've already tried search and came up dissapointed or they are really lacidasical about their question and won't really mind if you just ignore it and move on. Taking the time to tell someone to websearch something is even more pathetic than a "this" reply.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

When I ask someone for clarification via their expertise, I usually reflexively indicate that I cannot trust google because of the incursion of AI slop, and even if it shows THEM accurate results, it is no guarantee that it will show ME those same results.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just googlw it is unfortunate shorthand for "learn it by doing research and troubleshooting", a skill sadly very scarce. I agree it's toxic and unhelpful. Guiding people to be better at finding information on their own is the way.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Asking someone else a question is also doing research.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Can't argue with that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Imagine asking chatgpt and it tells you to "Google it"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't it already tell some teen to kill themself recently? It fits right in with the worst of the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This will be Gemini in 2025

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Recursively google searching is an interesting case of the halting problem.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"Just ChatGPT it" is going to become a thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

"Just make shit up" is basically saying the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Until it gets paywalled

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