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And no, the 6.134258 shares of Apple in your 401K don't make you an owner, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I kinda disagree with this a little. These things are interconnected. While we shouldn't let stuff like race and sexuality divide us, we shouldn't ignore that some groups have been fucked over more than others and part of dismantling the system is seeing what parts are rotten. Red lining n shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying to ignore them, I'm saying we have a common enemy using those differences to exploit and murder us by amplifying every division except owners vs workers using for profit media and captured government, encouraging us to fight one another over them so they can do so.

Note the absolutely confused and terrified tone the for profit media is going through right now when they're perfectly fine when 10 kids get gunned down. That's just another wedge for division, gun control, for them to stoke as no one that mattered, to them, died.

Im saying that until we pause and dethrone the owners, they will see to it those secondary divisions remain entrenched and heated to keep us weak, and therefore they are the primary threat that must be the priority to solve literally any of our great national blights.

We cannot begin to heal... Any division... Until the instigators that keep stoking them for private profit are defeated and made subject to society, government, and regulation again instead of controlling them.

Reigning in our sociopathic, murderous late stage capitalism is step 0 to any positive change. They are the gatekeepers. Or get comfy with everything continuing to decline until collapse. It's hell now. It will get so much worse with them running government and controlling mass media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've seen some pretty compelling arguments from minority groups that step 0 can't be done without simultaneously addressing the divisions you're talking about. I don't see why we can't do both. I agree that these things are used and usually ultimately come from capitalism, but I think that recognizing and fixing those divisions is an integral part of dismantling capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Again, capitalism amplifies these divisions with the bully pulpits ONLY THE CAPITALISTS CONTROL through government and profit media.

You can't have any movement they don't inform and can't kill entirely if they wish, because they own the signal, and a few techies on distributed social media doesn't change that.

But nothing will change, because there are too many people that refuse to acknowledge that, that think their cause is more important and must take priority when the class war either created or exacerbates their oppression, effects more people, almost everyone, and while identify affirmation is a nice and in a decent society important thing, material needs, food, water, shelter for ALL are objectively a higher priority than telling 10% of the population for any subgroup "I see you, your identity is valid." I'm all for that. But this is a literal war where people are being murdered, and a cause parade for any cause other than stop murdering/exploiting our very lives for profit us has no place in a war for the vast majority of the population's survival.

And it's ridiculous when people say "we can do both" no we can't. We can't do anything. We've been in a steady downward spiral for 60 years as income inequity has grown. We can't do anything under this economy. Not one god damned lasting thing. That is by oligarch design.

But we won't as a society unite and forcefully remove that common enemy because someone else has to have their symptom addressed before. Climate change will do what we should have in a few decades, force the permanent collapse of this inhuman economy, but it'll hardly matter then, and nothing equitable will take it's place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Bruv it might be time to take a break from the Internet for a bit and focus up on your personal life, this seems like real hardcore bad world syndrome and, while I feel you, I really do, this comment sounds like your mental health is in a bad place and you might want to take a break.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. It's not about the "gays vs the straights" or the "left vs the right" or the Romulans vs The Federation. It's about the rich vs everybody else. It's a class war. It always has been and the rich use the media they own to make you think it's a culture war. To keep you fighting with other so you won't figure out where the REAL source of your pain comes from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We need a Luigi (the human) Wojak asap.

Nintendo will step in and spoil the fun (hard) if this gets momentum.

Also for human Luigi: Mugshot Vs Twitter pic for drake meme also?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

fuck Nintendo, i don't think they'll want to push their luck

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Right vs Left Race vs. Race Men vs. Women Cis vs. LGBT

What did the left Race, or the women cis, or the Race Men do to deserve this?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Right is in the first place because they support capitalism, therefore support owners

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And no, the 6.134258 shares of Apple in your 401K don't make you an owner, lol.

Thank you for saying this. It's very frustrating when people act like having retirement savings makes you like billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

This is 100% by design. The only way to retire in this economy is to invest in an exploitative business. So over time, people find themselves supporting ideas that make retirements in general farther away, but their own retirement nicer.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i love how this guy is putting class consciousness into people.

the race, gender and politics discussion is important, but to get anything done we need class consciousness first.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Less "first," more "alongside" imo. Class division is the primary contradiction, but you can't untangle it without making progress on the secondary contradictions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

thats a good point. its part of how they divide us.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

While I appreciate you covered up drakes face with Luigi, please consider using the laforge version of this meme in the future. Here is a copy for you. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm out-of-the-loop. Did Drake do something bad?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Damn dude, you win. Way to inspire me to aspire to your level of greatness.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's still very important to recognize the impacts of racism, sexism, homophobia, and more. White supremacy, cishet supremacy, and patriarchy are additional axes by which the overall contradiction of bourgeois vs proletarian is waged. You can't erase that. You have to acknowledge it within the broader class war. Historically, class war has been waged the fiercest by those most marginalized by it, uniting and making significant social progress is necessary for Socialism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love how you left out east vs west in the top panel.

What a weird thing to forget 😅

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think Tupac and Biggie would be friends today. Probably even do a collab album. And then beat the shit out of puff daddy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

I was referring to the century old propaganda in this meme. It's okay to not be for progress and growth, just don't pretend to be for it 🤷

Guess everyone was right about tankies not being able to honestly discuss anything.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

No war but class war.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thought it said labradors and thought this post was written by a dog criticizing human politics compared to their dog politics between themselves and their owners

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

"Humans have limitless bacon, but force us to perform tricks and go outside to pee in view of the whole world before they'll give it away as a treat."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Being distracted and divided is what we do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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