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GOG.com is a DRM-free games and movies distribution service that is part of the CD Projekt Group. GOG.com is also a "sister" company to CD Projekt Red, developers of the Witcher series and Cyberpunk 2077.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

@Sunshine A tool I find way too rarely mentioned in that context is
https://constexpr.org/innoextract/ - it allows to unpack the Windows and Linux installers from GoG without actually running them.

That's for instance relevant if you are on an ARM computer and don't want to bother installing box64 just to get a DOS game running.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Lutris will also let you install a game from a GoG offline installer using the install script from GoG (using the script means that if there are dependencies like the game needing a specific DirectX version it gets automatically configured in Wine).

Also if I understand correctly the article, going via Bottles means you have a single Wine "instance" (i.e. a wine prefix) for all your GoG games - as GoG access in managed via GoG Galaxy which is a Windows program - whilst Lutris by default gives you one wine prefix per game, so it's a bit better isolated and you can chose different Wine versions for different games (for those games were latest is not bestest).

Last but not least, if you want further isolation from your system in Lutris there is a "command prefix" option (under runtime options if I remember it correctly) where you can put the prefix for the command that runs wine with your game, which let's you run things like firejail which sandbox the whole Wine instance and whatever game it's being used to run (in my system I have it as default, configured to deny things like network access and privilege escalation). This is maybe more applicable for people sailing the high seas, but it will also do things like blocking games from sending game analytics over the network if configure as I did to block network access.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They all have there pluses. Currently I really like Heroic.

Lutris has community scripts to install.
Can be nice for the different versions of games out there, not just gog.

Bottles is cool because it really focuses on you having complete control is wine.

Heroic is great because you can log into gog through it and install the games. Somewhat like Steam. Just noticed you can have Heroic link installed games to Steam

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I have found that lutris scripts are often so out of date that they often break as much as they solve.

Battle.net games had this problem for a long time tested on 2 different systems. Bottles worked perfectly by default.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't use GOG. I'm not going to let them treat me as a second class citizen, when Steam treats me as first class.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

@Limonene

I appreciate what Valve does for Linux gaming, but GOG gives me the freedom to use the client I prefer (Heroic, GOG Galaxy, Minigalaxy, …) or no client at all. When I buy a game, I receive a ZIP file with everything I need to run the game, without requiring an account or an internet connection. GOG Galaxy may only be available as a Windows executable, but I run it on Linux, and they allow me to do so, no questions asked.

@Sunshine

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Steam doesn't even let you own games you paid for, so it treats you as a pleb in feudal times - it's just that at this precise moment in time this isn't a bad quality of life. But your existence is nothing but the whim of Steam - which includes the option to shut down everything & end your existence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

@Limonene @Sunshine
🤕
Dependence makes you a first-class citizen, and freedom a second-class citizen???
THAT's a strange way of looking at first-classness!
🧐

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You want to elaborate on that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

GOG released a Windows client, but no Linux client. My problem is with being treated worse than a Windows user.

In comparison, itch.io has no Windows client and no Linux client (in part because some of the stuff they sell is not software). So I have no problem buying through itch.io.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

itch.io does have a client, it even has a Linux version and it's on Flathub:

https://itch.io/app

https://flathub.org/apps/io.itch.itch

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I'm not OP but I use GOG significantly less ever since I switched to Linux and got a Steam Deck.

  • Steam has an official Linux client, GOG does not
  • Steam syncs my savegames between PC and Steam Deck out of the box, GOG does not
  • Steam setups all the Proton-stuff and I only have to click play, GOG does not

I currently use Heroic but until GOG commits some more resources into their Linux ecosystem I'm just going to use them sparingly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One of these two entities actually lets me own my games. To where I can install them from local files even without an internet connection. One of these entities leases me games that I can install with an internet connection as long as they see fit. They are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Learning that steam may delist a game if its offered by another store for cheaper has definitely soured my opinion of them. GOG should make a native installer though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That only applies if you're selling Steam keys in the other store. If you sell access via other means (like direct download), you can price them however you want. Hence, thousands of itch.io games that are cheaper than their Steam versions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, not true. They specifically mention its not just steam keys in their released emails.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you have a link to the actual emails, rather than a YouTube video for it, I'd be very interested in that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you have anything but conjecture I'd be interested in that as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, you made the claim, so 🤷

Short of evidence for your claim, I'll roll with the fact that, to my knowledge, there has never been a case of an itch.io game being bullied out of being cheaper than its Steam version.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I made the claim and provided evidence. You have yet to refute it in any meaningful way and have only provided conjecture. If you have proof the email isn't real feel free to share it. You're also free to look up the emails yourself if you feel they would prove me wrong.

Without evidence "your knowledge" means nothing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Your "evidence" was from a YouTube video that doesn't cite the source of the emails either, and I trust that as much as anyone should trust a Twitter screenshot. If you had a link to the actual emails that said that, I'd change my mind, but you're being really weirdly defensive when simply being asked for a better source than an uncited YouTube video.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

https://youtu.be/csyF67DwI4w @ 8:45

Emails revealed during a case

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, GOG does not offer a client for Linux that you can use.

You can use any of the following game clients on Linux:

• Lutris
• Heroic Games Launcher
• Bottles

I found Lutris to be the easiest, and quickest to be able to run a Windows-exclusive GOG game on Linux. So, let me start with it…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Heroic was the closest to a steam-like experience for GOG games to me. (While having a very Epic-esque UI).

Lutris worked OK. But seemed to need more tweaking to make things work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I found Lutris to be a complete pain. GOG Galaxy in Bottles and Heroic Games Launcher have been much better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have been using Lutris but I am always happy to learn! Do you know a good guide you could point me towards to get started with Galaxy in Bottles?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This has the process:

https://docs.usebottles.com/bottles/installers#use-installers

It's pretty much install bottles>>create bottle>>click on install programs>>GOG Galaxy

That said I've just started using Heroic Games Launcher and I think I prefer that. Granted I haven't done too much with it yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks!

I haven’t tried Heroic yet either. What do you like better about it versus Bottles so far?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bottles itself is great, but your running the windows version of GOG Galaxy in Bottles. So it can be a bit fussy at times.

Heroic runs on Linux. I have it from Flatpak. Linking it to my GOG account was easy. The UI is a little better to me and definitely more responsive. I can also pick custom versions of WINE or Proton on a game by game basis as well. With Bottles everything runs with a single runner. Hasn't been a problem yet, but it's a nice option.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes, wine or proton by version. But also, gives Epic, GOG and Amazon Prime games in one launcher vs Galaxy via wine bottle on its own.

Not sure if Lutris has this too or not. Seems like it might.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know Lutris does GOG and Humble, but I'm not sure about Epic or Prime. I haven't used Lutris in a couple of years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The screenshot in the article shows Epic, GOG, Ubisoft and Origin so I guess it covers some library integrations beyond just GOG. But ya, not sure about Prime.