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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Make this into the trolley problem: five people on one side, sad shooter face. One person on the other side requires manual intervention. Happy shooter face.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Now instead of 5 people, make it 5 million.

The magnitude of good done from this act is astounding.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Just pointing out that had it been an average Joe who got assassinated and we had a clear picture of the killer's face we wouldn't even have heard about it on the news. Now they want everyone to look for him.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I don't see anything similar at all. Nope.

[–] [email protected] 289 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 159 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's like the old saying, "If you see a child stealing food, no you didn't."

[–] [email protected] 107 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If you see anyone of any age stealing food, no you didn’t.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Nah.

Rich people steal for “fun” sometimes.

And something like baby formula is often stolen to be sold overseas, not because they needed it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe so. But if there’s any possibility it’s a genuine need, don’t ruin a baby’s chance to get fed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Uhhh?

These people stripped shelves empty, causing many babies to go hungry because nothing was in stock.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Unless you’re that store’s manager, you should be more upset that people who are hungry aren’t being fed to the point they resort to theft.

Actually, you should be more upset by that either way. I understand not wanting to support theft of food just to eat but something is wrong when you condemn it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

One of my favorite movies!

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean they say this is the guy they're looking for...but is it?? I don't recognize him at all. Also he doesn't seem to have that fancy backpack in between pictures. This leads me to believe that these are 2 separate dudes. Clothing colors are also different.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We don't know.

I'm gonna sound like a conspiracy theorist, but what do you think happens if they can't find a perpetrator? They find a scapegoat. They do that often, even with low-profile cases, what makes you think they won't do it for a high-profile case?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 months ago (2 children)

To the people of New York:

We have a responsibility as citizens to respect our civic duty to justice. You may be selected for a jury to try a suspect for this murder. It may be the one responsible, it may be a scapegoat. In either case, after the judicial proceedings, you will be asked to assent to a verdict. On that day, you will be required to ensure justice is served. On that day, remember just two words: jury nullification.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world amended their TOS to ban people for promoting Jury Nullification.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

After they banned everyone for it, and later said they would change the TOS to ban people for it.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/29086287

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'll admit, you had me in the first half.

For anyone genuinely considering jury nullification, it's also probably not a good idea to bring it up before deliberation. Lawyers typically try to get jurors dismissed when they're aware that it's actually an option.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You also kinda need to convince your fellow jurors to vote "non-guilty". But do so discreetly.

Hung jury is a mistrial. Mistrial means the prosecution can try again. (Double Jeopardy doesn’t apply to mistrials) If you were the only one who voted not-guilty, chances are, the next jury will vote unanimously guilty.

Its very easy to get kicked off jury before deliberations, so what you wanna do is: After deliberations begin, try to covertly nudge your fellow jurors. For example, if the suspect did not say anything that’s a confession, say “Are y’all sure this is the guy, I feel like he’s been set up.” Make excuses on why he might not be the perpetrator.

Only when you are sure that you or only like 2 or 3 of you are saying “not-guilty” then try to say things like: “But should we really convict this guy when the CEO that died was a horrible person?” Just try not to say “jury nullification”, keep making excuses on why you are voting “not-guilty”.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I did try to be specific: on that day.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean there's a million eyes on them, they're either gonna get the right or the whole DA is gonna be in a world of shit.

If it comes out they intentionally framed someone cause they couldn't find the right guy, there's no way this won't come out. Already disregarding the heightened likelyhood on jury nullification and general unwillingness for the public to cooperate.

There's so many news stations in proximity and so many people who'd speak out in a nanosecond, they can't even get to fuck around before they find out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

He was likely in New York for days before the shooting. Presumably not wearing the same clothes the whole time.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I get the point of this meme but if you look at the photo of the assassin he’s wearing a beige backpack with beige shoulder straps. This just seems like a guy wearing a similar jacket on the wrong day. 

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago

Doesn't look like anything to me

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago

I didn't see nuthin'.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And suddenly an entire city has facial blindness.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago

Facial blindness and knowledge of jury nullification, for reasons...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh I like that phrasing even better! I changed the meme. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No worries, I love that they've released his face and still no one's saying shit. The poors are working together for the greater good.

Edit: Also, why does the first picture look like a young Joe Rogan?

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