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Summary

North Korean troops sent to Russia to support its war in Ukraine remain sidelined due to poor training and logistical issues, according to Western officials.

These soldiers are expected to relieve Russian troops in secondary positions to free up forces for frontline battles in regions like Kursk, though they are unlikely to see combat in eastern Ukraine.

The war continues to take a massive toll, with over 700,000 Russian soldiers killed or wounded since February 2022, while both sides face challenges replacing losses.

Russia’s reliance on poorly trained recruits and prison conscripts highlights its growing manpower issues.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

More poorly trained than a convict 2 weeks out of prison? Doesn't seem possible...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like tv and movies do more than we think for giving a base-layer of military training. I'm not saying it's LIKE military training, but people have at least seen what they're going to do before training

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought they had already been getting killed fighting in Ukraine? I haven't followed the news too closely recently though so I'm probably wrong, just seen some headlines around the place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IIRC the NK soldiers have been fighting (and dying) in the Ukrainian occupied parts of Russia, and haven't been deployed to the Russian occupied parts of Ukraine yet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yet the article clearly states that they haven’t fought yet? Which is it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fog of war and all, so I'm guessing no one knows, but here's my take: This is more recent so it's probably more true that they haven't actually been fighting yet. IIRC those rumors before of them fighting has only been coming from South Korea and Ukraine. Ukraine, while I support them, clearly has a biased motivation to seem as outnumbered and out-gunned as possible to express a need to their allied nations to give them more weapons, and even to try to get them to join the war themselves. South Korea's bias is pretty obvious. Neither offered much physical evidence except I think a flag they found.

The US is also biased, but are a step removed, so I believe their intelligence on this topic more than either of those two until we get something even more recent and clear. Also it's hilarious to me imagining them being worse than Russian convicts lol.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

if I was a russian oligarch you couldn’t pay me enough money to admit this.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Must be a fucking wird ride for these soldiers. First porn and now learning that you actually have been fucked by your own government by not even training you the way you are supposed to be trained.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Supposedly, once they got across the border and got access to Russian smart phones, they quickly discovered porn. There were several reports (though TBF, they could have been propaganda), that the NK soldiers kept getting caught masturbating by the Russians they were working alongside, and some were incapacitated due to the fact that they had masturbation-related injuries. Like the NK soldiers just used every single opportunity to whip out their new phones and beat their meat until it was bloody.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm kinda glad I was on a 28.8k modem when I was a kid so we had to watch the naked girls come through line by line.

Saw crazy porn on VHS at 13 though and definitely beat it til it bled.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Yah, the rumor is that the north Koreans got ahold of cellphones with open web access for the first time in their life. So they immediately started watching all the porn and jacking themselves raw.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Never seen the internet in your life. 25 year old male. What's the first thing you look for?

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Man if Russia is telling you your troops are unfit for battle, you know your troops are absolute fucking garbo.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Never stopped him before

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i'll bet they get issued like 10 rounds each for those giant helical mags

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

IIRC from earlier reading, Russia was issuing them Russian rifles for the conflict.

I don't think that the thumbnail is from the current deployment.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who knew practicing to be a Rockette wouldn't prepare you for combat lmao.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bro I don't think you understand the real power of dance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What about the Power of Friendship?

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you train for theatrics

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Are you telling me there's more to war than military parades?

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Also, probably malnourished. They may have gotten decent rations since they were conscripted (North Korea has a “military first” policy), but up until then they would have grown up with a calorie deficit.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Exactly, if you grow up with a calorie deficit , you don't develop the way you should have. This is not something you can revert by suddenly eating decent food.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just because they're 4'6" and have bones the density of plywood doesn't mean they can't shoot right?

Meanwhile at the range- Holy shit his arm came right off!

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